FWIW it does appear the first automobile on Mars, at least in recent times, is likely to be a bright red Tesla. 
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Iâm not talking about AutoPilot or advance cruise-control but rather collision avoidance auto-breaking which a lot of new car got now. Maybe thereâs a way to turn it off.
Was I replying to youâŚ
I donât know⌠You talking to me? You talking to me?
âthen who the hell else are you talking?â
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Open forumâŚanyone can join into this conversation
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You may want to check the quote.
Yes, I did. It The first production delivery date is still same (March to May 2018), but Standard and AWD version are delayed to Late 2018. You are still going to lose your bet 
Still thinking Thanksgiving? You were wrong to short Tesla and now you are wrong to estimate Thanskgiving as the delivery date.
Umm, you said in your first post you were getting the standard battery. That email says the standard battery cars are coming out âlate 2018.â I think thereâs some sort of disconnect here TeslaPed.
Definitely disconnect here. Read carefully. I said I would do a standard battery for Nov to Jan delivery to save $9K. But it wouldnât make sense to lose $7,500 tax credit to get a standard battery. Standard battery went out the door when Elon Musk announced late last year that standard battery wonât be available after July of 2018. Itâs widely believed that full $7,500 tax credit will end by June of 2018.
You and I were discussing about whether I will get Model 3 before Thanksgiving or not. No battery was discussed until you just realize that I am still getting my Tesla in fe months. Nice try though.
In few months, I will post lots of my Model 3 photos to make you wish youâd stood in line to reserve one on March 31, 2016.
Got a perfect name for youâŚToobrokeshortingTesla 
Ahh, I see. You want the cheapest Tesla or the cheap AWD model, but only if it comes with a tax credit. Otherwise, you will settle for whatever they give you if it gets you a tax credit. Please understand, itâs hard to keep track of all your hopes and dreams for your car. I mean look at all these posts:
Itâs also hard to keep track of all the delays. Forgive my confusion. Itâs a shame that so many of your hopes wonât be met, but at least youâll have a very pretty $49,000 Chevy Bolt.
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Did you forget that I am happy driving my X3? As long as I get my $7,500 tax credit, it really doesnât matter to me if I get next month or June. Model 3 will be a fun drive for the weekend.
There is no such thing as pretty Chevy Bolt. Itâs ugly inside and outside. Even if they give me extra $5k to get it off their parking lot, I still wouldnât buy it. Hell, I wouldnât even want to drive into Chevy dealership and deal with cheesy car salesman.
Wow, that one flew over your head. There is such thing as a pretty Chevy Bolt - youâre on the waiting list for it.
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Those with interest in the Tesla Model 3 might find this Bloomberg article illuminating:
Article was updated on February 14, 2018.
I have a reservation for a model 3 placed on April 2nd, 2016. So, not a day 1 reservation, but the first weekend. Iâm excited about the car, but meed18 makes some legitimate points and I feel TeslaModel3 sometimes goes a bit overboard. But then again meed18 also cherry picks comments just to be more combative.
The Bolt is a decent car. I find the styling of the Model 3 better than the Bolt. That is a personal preference. I am glad the Bolt, Leaf, i3, and Ioniq exist. More competition is better and will drive improvements across all brands.
I choose to give Tesla an interest free loan for a reservation because there is little downside. At 3% per year (far more than banks are paying, but less than the stock market has returned), I am losing out on 30 dollars per year. Not a big deal. Given that the reservation might save my $7500 in tax rebates, that is a great trade off. Even if I donât get a tax rebate, there might be value in flipping the car. And even if I donât try to make money on the reservation, getting the car earlier is worth the $60 over two years.
I would prefer AWD and premium upgrade package, but havenât decided on LR vs SR. The tax incentive will sway my decision. Iâm willing to pay more for AWD, but only so much more. If the choice is between not paying for AWD and getting the full $7500 rebate and getting the car later with no rebate, and paying extra for AWD, then I wonât get it. Its not that I need the rebate, but that I am making a rational cost vs. benefit decision. AWD is worth around $5k to me. Iâm not going to pay more than $10k (price of AWD plus loss of tax credit) for it.
In terms of time to refill the car, I think it is a red herring. Every morning you start with a full tank. You get to charge the car overnight in your garage. Recharge time only matters if you drive more than the range in a single day. How often do you do that? Compare that to how often you spend time filling up at a gas station. Over a year, I expect to spend less time waiting for the car to fill up compared to a ICE car because of this.
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Thanks for sharing your rationale of selecting your Model 3. Definitely, tax credit will influence our decision. Looking forward to discussing options once we get a notification to configure our car.
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For what reason do you guys want all wheel drive? Are you regularly going to be driving in snow? Iâm just wondering because I thought one of the main points of an EV is efficiency. Unless you are using it, AWD is just added weight and inefficiency, isnât it?
Weâve had snow on the roads between one to two weeks each winter for the past few years where I live. In my current job, my office closes or I can work remotely when the roads are bad. So I donât have to drive in the snow. In my old job I had to go in when it snowed, but I always made it into work even though Iâve never owned an all wheel drive car. I own tire chains and Iâve used them a grand total of twice in the past 4 winters.