Whom will the Democrats nominate for the 2020 POTUS run?

Whom will the Democrats nominate for the 2020 POTUS run?
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#84

Kirsten Gillibrand has made it official and has thrown her hat into the ring for the Democrat 2020 POTUS run. She has experience both as a Congress woman and also as a United States Senator, but she is NO fossil! Senator Gillibrand represents New York.


#85

Mike Gravel gets my vote.


#86

Any thoughts on Andrew Yang?


#87

Mr. Yang has a following, especially on the west coast. I believe he has qualified to take part in the first debate.


#88

Circumstances now with Vice President Biden are so striking. It’s clear a GREAT many Democrats are fearful he could win the nomination. They do not believe he could defeat President Trump.

One thing I have noticed is the absence of President Obama on the Democrat POTUS playing field, in support of his VP. Instead, President Obama has remained silent. Does this silence actually send a message?


#89

Here’s the complete list of people not running:

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As you can see, it’s quite a list.


#90

With Vice President Biden now having entered the race, many traditional Democrats have announced their support for him.

Some younger, more progressive Democrats do not favor Biden. One of them will surely win a place as his VP nominee.

Drudge is featuring a poll this morning which indicates Biden would destroy Trump . . . . at least if the election were held now.

President Obama has not yet come out for Biden. When (if) he does, that should be decisive.


#91

Decisive, as in the kiss of death?


#92

Snapshot

This is a snapshot only and is not intended to be predictive of any particular outcome. Going forward anything is possible. However, at this moment:

Vice President Biden has a commanding lead in at least three polls. In two of the polls his lead over Bernie is more than 20 points. In the third poll his lead over Bernie is fourteen points. Rest of the field?

The other candidates are having trouble even showing up. Senator Warren appears to be doing best among the “also rans”, but she in not even close to Biden or Bernie. Most everyone else is not in double digits!!

Obviously all this could change. It is VERY early. The first debate will not take place until the end of next month. But at this moment the race belongs to Vice President Biden and is his to win or lose.


#93

You can buy/sell “shares” on a variety of political topics on predictit.org.

I’ve never used it, but it seems like it would be entertaining to throw a few $20s around. Cheaper and more fun than casino gambling if you ask me.


#94

When I started this thread I was tipping my cap to the Democrats for embracing such an open process to select their nominee. After all, that same approach found a winner for the Republicans in 2016.

But now I’m having second thoughts. The number of contenders is currently at twenty-three! And Mayor Bill de Blasio is contemplating throwing his hat into the ring. That would make twenty-four, with still other possible candidates thinking hard about joining the fray.

Does there come a point where you just want to shout: ENOUGH!! I no longer can keep track of all the names. Democrats need to do some winnowing and it cannot happen too soon.


#95

I use this site which tracks Betfair-exchange-implied probabilities: http://www.gambletron2000.com/us-elections-2020/44723/democratic-nominee-odds


#97

This is silly. We’re all old enough to remember these elections. It’s disingenuous to claim there were that many candidates.

I think the difference between right now and the last two elections is that it feels like the media is actually covering a lot of the 23 candidates so early, which was not the case in 2012 (media covered 6 GOP) or in 2016 (they barely covered every republican allowed on the debate stage, covered 2 democrats, barely mentioned 2 other dems, and laughed at 1 independent).


#99

I have an observation I want to share. This is somewhat off topic, but since this is my thread . . . I’ll allow it!! :grinning:

It seems to me the Democrat candidates, both announced and unannounced, know a whole lot more about politics than I do. The Republicans do, too, but this thread is about Democrats which I why I’m focusing on them. I do not think so many Democrats would be running, or considering running, unless they thought they had a shot at a nomination of some sort. Perhaps they’re thinking “top spot” or maybe it is “veep” . . . . but one or the other. OK, maybe a few of the candidates are instead looking to raise their profile or trying for résumé enhancement. I think those folks are in the minority.

Anyway, if I’m right it means the race is more wide open than it might appear at first to be. The opinions of so many eager politicians are worth more than mine. After all, media accounts would have us believe Vice President Biden is out front, is running away from the field, and has all but secured the nomination already! Yet many professional politicians seem to be at odds with that scenario.

One wonders how this all will end. Not just who will win the nomination, but also whether or not the process will end peacefully, amicably, and with the Democrat party united behind their eventual standard bearer.

ETA

If you think about the Republicans in 2016, their tumultuous nomination process surely did not conclude with party unity. Quite the opposite! Will the Democrats have a more auspicious outcome this time around?


#100

A lot of them have a pet cause they want to force into the national spotlight. “Running for president” and (attempting to) force the major candidates to address the issue as part of their campaigns is about the biggest spotlight you’re ever going to get. Most that announce a candidacy for president have an agenda completely unrelated to becoming president.

Think of the “The rent’s too damn high” guy. He had no expectations of winning anything, he just wanted to make sure everyone knew that the rent is too damn high.


#101

Vice President Biden is running very strongly according to a recent poll as reported by Reuters. Only Bernie, alone, while far behind is also in double digits. ALL other contenders are well back in SINGLE digits! Here is a link to the Reuters piece:

It’s BIDEN!!

I do not believe President Obama has thrown the considerable weight of his support behind his friend . . . . . yet.


#102

Maybe DeBlasio will quit being mayor of NYC while he tries to convince the country to follow his failed policies.


#103

Oh! This will be good. Any deals right now on popcorn? I’ll check hot deals…
:slight_smile:


#104

WSJ on de Blasio - harsh.

Politics these days is a form of entertainment, and for the comedy portion of the Democratic presidential nomination fight we now have New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. He has no chance of winning, but we’ll break our longtime policy and consider an endorsement if he resigns as mayor while he’s running.

Our friends at the New York Post greeted his candidacy with a front page of people laughing at the news. But the one benefit is that he is a walking expression of today’s progressivism: Assertions of great moral virtue in calls to advance equality and justice, followed by abject failure as these good intentions fail miserably in the execution.

He has presided over a catastrophe of mismanagement at the New York City Housing Authority that caused a federal judge to impose a federal monitor. “Somewhat reminiscent of the biblical plagues of Egypt, these conditions include toxic lead paint, asthma-inducing mold, lack of heat, frequent elevator outages, and vermin infestations,” the judge said.

Then there’s his Renewal program for failing public schools that flopped after spending nearly $800 million with little improvement in student performance. He wasted that money while doing everything in his power to harm the city’s successful charter schools that now educate 123,000 children.


#105

Anyone remember Colbert’s superPAC shenanigans? The story was that a superPAC can raise infinite amounts of money from anonymous donors while disclosing absolutely nothing. The candidate can’t “coordinate” with the superPAC, but the gist was that someone running the PAC could just keep whatever is left in the account to themselves (or give it to the candidate). Nobody would ever find out, and it’s not illegal anyway. Is that still so?

I hope that’s not the reason most of the candidates are running, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

I am surprised that Bernie only became a millionaire recently (from book sales). Senators make a pretty good salary and most of their expenses are covered. Six figures with a guaranteed pension, healthcare, etc, few personal expenses, they should all have a 7 digit net worth in a few years.