Who will join POTUS nominee Biden on the Democrat ticket as VP?

Do you think that they have a clue about finances? If they spent their household funds like they do ours, they’d be filing bankruptcy as frequently as legal. I’m pretty sure their net worth increases from sources other than their “official” salaries.

One possible reason for Bernie’s lateness to the millionaire’s club is that he was kind of a kook with no real power … and a socialist. Maybe the only people who wanted to pay him were also the ones already holding out their hands.

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My focus is not on Bernie’s money. My focus is on his eager followers.

Bernie, it now appears, is once again becoming overshadowed by another candidate. This time it is Vice President Biden and, unlike in 2016, I think the situation here is legitimate and not any form of cheating or DNC anti-Bernie bias. I think Tom Perez is a fair man.

But true or false, right or wrong, that makes no difference whatsoever to Bernie’s true believers. Such folks, in the end, might be only one or two percent of the Democrat electorate. But if Bernie is not on the ticket they will at best remain at home on election day; and a few might even vote for Trump! That could be enough for Biden to lose a very close, extremely tight, election.

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The first debate is one month from this weekend. Things are becoming a bit frothy on the Democrat side because:

I was unaware prior but the Democrats have limited the available first debate podiums to just twenty! This is insufficient, frankly, to handle the large number of candidates in the race. So candidates are jockeying with one another for a place on that first debate stage.

At first Mr. Perez (DNC chair) set donations as the standard. But lower tier candidates have been creative, soliciting small donations in large numbers, thereby successfully fulfilling Mr. Perez’s requirement. But Mr. Perez is nevertheless holding the available podiums at twenty, with additional bar(s) established to qualify. It’s becoming rather turbulent and promises to become even more so as the first debate bears down on the field.

One thing is for certain: The Democrats surely have no lack whatsoever of POTUS candidates!!

Things heat up as the first debate moves closer

How can you have a productive debate with 20 people? It’ll be the wild west, with no one respecting any rules or decorum, and only being focused on making the biggest impression possible in whatever backhanded way necessary. It’s going to be a joke, the only question is if it’ll be funny or sad.

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Will anyone watch?

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No person who knows me would ever accuse me of being supportive of Democrats or the Democrat agenda. However:

I do support and admire the very open process Democrats have adopted this time around to arrive at their POTUS nomination. I am respectful of Mr. Perez in this regard. He has his hands FULL and is doing the very best he can in a challenging situation for his party.

If you compare this with the Democrat’s process prior to the 2016 election, it is night and day. What would you do in Mr. Perez’s situation? The Democrats desperately need a nominee who has been openly and fairly arrived at. And that is exactly what Mr. Perez is doing his level best to give them. Credit where due.

Knowing that you’re not naive, I admire your hopeful, positive (or positively hopeful) opinion.

Might I ask how any previous nomination was not open? Oops! Rephrase - Without the use of hindsight, between 1968 and 2016, what Democrat nomination was not open?

I thought Bernie got rather a raw deal back in 2016. If you recall, then DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz (DWS) was forced to resign in the wake of revelations related to her pro-Hillary bias. Admittedly it took a telephone call from President Obama finally to force her out. She was also not permitted to gavel open the Democrat Party 2016 convention. Compared with DWS, the DNC chair now, Mr. Perez, deserves a commendation for fairness. I have seen nothing whatsoever indicating he has put his finger on the scale in favor of any candidate in the large Democrat field - and that is how things should be.

Some might argue that Hillary would have defeated Bernie, back in 2016, even had the nomination process been open and totally fair. That certainly is possible. But we will never know.

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My apologies, Shin. Your memory is greater than mine, which ain’t saying much. :slight_smile: I thought all of the “finger on the scale” revelations came after the nomination.

Accepted but wholly unnecessary.

I like fair play. So far the Democrat nomination process has been fair insofar as I’m aware. Democrat voters should select their nominee, not a small group of their elites.

Significant numbers of Democrat POTUS candidates, to all of whom this thread is dedicated, have been out there all across America asking for donations and making the case to voters for their candidacy. Good for them!! I applaud their vigor, their work, and their efforts. Love it or hate it, that is how the process is supposed to work here in America, a process which eventually will give us our next POTUS.

Top 4 in the polling and almost no support below that.

https://scottrasmussen.com/democratic-primary-polling/

Yeah, but Biden’s got all of the massage money from Kraft. :wink:

I believe the upcoming debates will have ability to move opinion in a HUGE way. The Democrats have a number of very strong, vigorous, smart, sharp candidates. One or two of them will reveal themselves during the debates, just as Trump did among the Republican field in their debates back in 2016.

Small flaw in your “just as” analogy – he stood out as the biggest douche, not because he has any of the attributes you mentioned :slight_smile:

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Not even vigorous?

The moderators for the first Democrat POTUS debate have been announced by NBC. I gotta comment, but first:

Everyone must acknowledge Democrat political brilliance!!

They have chosen their moderators wisely and VERY well indeed. Even Rachel Maddow will be asking questions! And every other questioner will be a staunch Democrat, as well. This is how things should be. Democrat voters deserve answers to the tough questions moderators like these will be hurling at their array of candidates.

Compare this commonsensical Democrat approach to the idiotic Republican debates in 2016. The Republican fools allowed Democrats to ask the questions of their candidates. So of course everything was from a Democrat perspective. Rachel Maddow will be great later this month as a representative of the hard left. But do you think stupid Republicans would EVER allow Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity, both hard right individuals, to help moderate one of their POTUS debates? Hell will freeze over first.

Democrats are smart and they are respectful of their electorate. Republicans are a’holes. Here is the write up announcing the moderators:

Democrats know how to choose debate moderators.

That’s one of the funniest things I’ve read in a while… :slight_smile:

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Not in the least funny. Simply very true and accurate. But since you do not bother to say WHY you think it is funny, I am unwilling to respond in more detail.

answers to tough questions being hurled at them”

None of those bolded words relate to modern day “debates”. They’re nothing but a dog show of prepared sound bites. As noted earlier, the only thing being “hurled” anywhere will be between the candidates as they try to stand out a create some media buzz for themselves.

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