CD Discussion Thread

Here’s a post from Kaight (aka Shinobi) over on Deposit Accounts. His title is super misleading, but it’s a good deal if you can get the extra 2% from your credit card. I opened up a $5K CD, funding it with my Citi Double Cash, and it counted it as a purchase.

7% On One Year CD At GTE

Kaight | Jan 9, 2024

To get this deal you must overcome two aspects you possibly might not like:

First, it’s a one year CD deal. That might not be the best term choice for you right now. This is a matter of personal opinion and preference.

Second, you will need to fund the CD with a credit card offering a 2% reward which does not treat the transaction as a cash advance and which does treat the transaction as a purchase. Such credit cards exist, I can promise you that.

Other aspects of deal:
The 2% portion of your return, which is in the form of a credit card reward, is unlikely to be taxed. The 5% APY CD itself may be opened for as little as $500 if you just want to experiment and “dip your toe into the water” to see how things go before making a larger commitment later.

Many people believe interest rates generally will be lower one year hence. Nevertheless, a 7% return on one year money is a respectable rate of interest.

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LOL that definitely sounds like shinobi, with his ignorant insistence about the non-taxability of the credit card cash back :laughing:.

Anyone know if Amex codes as purchase? I can’t find any DPs.

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Ally 11mo No-Penalty CD decreased from 4.55% APY to 4.50% APY

Ally 12mo CD decreased from 5.25% APY to 5.15% APY

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Be prepared, credit card funding is available up to $5k when starting a new membership. Doesnt look to be available for adding new accounts after you’re a member.

And the CD was opened immediately online, once the wired funds showed in my account (within 2 hours of the sending bank calling to confirm the wire request).

One of their eligible “communities” listed is the greater Charlotte NC area. I have a NC license, which may make a difference.

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Thanks. I saw that but I didn’t take advantage of it because I wasn’t sure if it codes as a cash advance.

Anyway, my application failed when uploading the joint account picture ID. So I just submitted an individual application, and I will then try to add the joint account holder if I’m approved.

Climate First Bank is offering a 5.34% APY 6-month CD Special (no penalty), $500 minimum and a 5.34% APY 15-month Flex CD Special (partial no penalty and add-on), $500 min; new money required. Nationwide through online application.

6-Month No-Penalty CD Special

  • $500 minimum opening deposit and minimum required balance.
  • New money only. “Deposits and investments not previously held by Climate First Bank.”
  • No withdrawals allowed within the first seven days after account opening, but unlimited withdrawals allowed any time after first 7 days.

15-Month Flex CD Special

  • $500 minimum opening deposit and minimum required balance.
  • New money only. “Deposits and investments not previously held by Climate First Bank.”
  • Additional deposits in increments of $100 up to one-half of the initial principal balance are allowed throughout the term.
  • One withdrawal of up to ½ of initial principal balance without penalty after the first seven days of account opening.
  • 90 days interest penalty on withdrawals that exceed ½ of the initial principal balance and on any withdrawals after the first (penalty-free) withdrawal.
  • One-time rate bump at any time during the term.
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Del Norte Credit Union is offering a 13-month Share Certificate Specia at 5.65% APY with a $1k minimum deposit.

Del Norte Credit Union’s field of membership has expanded to include an easy membership requirement. U.S. citizens/residents aliens with a valid tax identification number who join the Del Norte LOV Foundation qualify for credit union membership. Joining is free (although they will gladly accept a donation) and can be done through the DNCU online membership application. There is the possibility that the nationwide availability could change if DNCU is inundated with out-of-state applications.

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1/18/24 edit - 7-month CD Special rate has dropped to 5.11% APY

Citizens State Bank has a 7-month CD Special at 5.75% APY with a 10k minimum deposit.

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My application with Advancial FCU was approved. I tried to link to the account from Fidelity, but Fidelity gave me an error “ownership information doesn’t match your Fidelity account”. Anyone else has this issue?

I used the 8-digit member savings number for the link.

Ally 11mo No-Penalty CD decreased again from 4.50% APY to 4.35% APY (same rate as their Savings Account, which leads me to believe that that is about to decrease as well…)

Ally 12mo CD decreased again from 5.15% APY to 5.00% APY

(Ally 9mo CD is at 5.15% APY, in case anyone is interested)

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Credit One Bank has a 12-month Jumbo CD at 5.60% APY w/100k minimum deposit.

Link

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So you open the gte 12mo cd at5%rate (5.12apy) & fund it with a 2% back cc.
I am guessing The only thing unique about gte is $5000 funding of the cd is allowed (from comments on https://www.depositaccounts.com/banks/gte-cu.html#promo56080 ).
Anyone know another bank/CU that allows $5000 or more cd funding?

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I only used trial deposits to link from outside banks.

Thanks. I wish Fidelity would do just that. For some reason, in addition to the ABA/Acc# combo, Fidelity wanted me to input in the userid/password combo as well, and there is no option to avoid it (short of sending in the ACH link by mail).

Just to verify, you used the 8-digit membership savings account as the account number?

I’d opened a checking account as well, so I used that number. But yes, it’s the 8 digit number (that starts with your 6 digit membership number).

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Yes, that’s basically it.

I’m unaware of other banks or CUs that allow credit card funding for CDs, but I’d bet Shinobi knows of others.

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Unknown about amex…Anyone know if US bank CASHPLUS codes as purchase? I can’t find any DPs. tia

My brokered CDs (bought with a ~5% YTM) are trading at a premium again, lowering their current YTM to around 4.5% (based on bid price). And they’re sub-4 year terms at this point. I plan to sell some Monday (pending the bid price I’m offered), and putting the funds into another 5.4% 5yr Advancial CD. Higher rate and longer maturity seems like a good idea.

I’m not buying that rate cuts are forthcoming, but I dont think further rate increases are in the cards, either.

I agree. Seems like inflation data has been mixed and I suspect the fed will be more likely to keep the status quo given we are in an election year. Maybe we see something post-election if the economy cools, but I doubt anything changes until then.

Locking something in now feels like the smart move. I don’t have anything in CDs right now; all my cash is in FZDXX which will drop the minute there’s a whiff of a rate cut. I think I’ll dig through all the obscure credit unions and their CD offers to hedge risk a bit.

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Schwab’s CD sale function seems a lot less fluid than when I last sold a CD on TD Ameritrade’s system. But I was able to cash out all but one (a 2-year that still has a 4.9% YTM) at prices indicating a 4.4-4.55% YTM. My net return on these CDs were 6-7% APY, with one at 11% APY.

Now hoping Advancial doesnt change their rates this week, so I can get these trades settled and the cash transfered into a new 5.4% CD.