I suppose you’re both right, but only if ICE can do their job expediently. I don’t think they work quickly (maybe quick to apprehend, not quick to deport). So then they end up being responsible for the medical care of their inmates, and I don’t think they have the best record in this area.
And if the doctors know this, then the answer isn’t so obvious.
That is more dependent on the illegal alien they’ve apprehended. Without objections, ICE can get illegal aliens home in less than 24 hours for Mexican source illegal aliens, and less than a week for South American source illegal aliens. Both depend on the number of deportees ready for their free trip. As for Middle Eastern and Chinese source illegal aliens, there’s a bit more vetting.
Yet another complex decision tree for the ER personnel to take on 
Not that complex, For a mere pittance, I will happily draw them a flow chart that makes it uber easy. 
I think ICE efficiency is above the pay grade of doctors. If the patient’s life is in danger, they’ll stabilize the patient first obviously. Then or if the patient is not a true emergency, their staff finds out what insurance the patient has or at least secure enough information for payment processing, including ID/SSN/ITIN and address information.
At that point where their billing system decides that they are illegals for whom Medicaid will be billed - and no extensive care should be provided beyond stabilizing them, it should be automated by their system to send to ICE information on these patients who did not have a form of ID indicating legal residency status. No extra decision process once that billing process is done.
This would cause illegals to avoid ER or any hospitals that use such a system. I suppose this solves the money problem in exchange for increased human suffering.
When you’ve chosen to live your life on the lam, the consequences arent anyone’s fault but your own…
You gonna argue that mandatory reporting of gunshot victims also increases human suffering?
They also have the option to actually pay for health services they receive. Since they save money by not paying into the system, shouldn’t they available funds for healthcare?
Alternatively, they could simply avoid all this alleged suffering by not illegally coming to the US in the first place or by preemptively returning to a country where they are eligible for tax-supported medical care. Not like we prevent them from leaving for better pastures. In fact, if they came forward -saving us the whole ICE reporting-, I’d hope we could offer them a free trip back.
And long-term, if we dispel the perception that illegals are welcome, maybe it’ll serve as incentive for others to try to immigrate legally instead? But yeah short-term it has cost-saving advantages as well undeniably.
That one has the intent of protecting human life. Same with mandatory reporting of suspicion of child abuse. This one does not.
True. But if the US turns to shit like NFFA or Gilead, any one of us could become an illegal immigrant in another country. (Point being that the choice to live on the lam is not an easy one, and the punishment may be unjust, in the grand scheme of things).
If it did, that could well be of our own doing though. Would it be fair to expect other countries to welcome us as illegal immigrants when they were not the ones responsible for screwing up their own country? The just/unjust argument gets much more complicated especially from the standpoint of the country receiving the influx of illegal immigrants. To take another example, consider why Egypt doesn’t care to welcome millions of palestinian immigrants …
Plus it terms of immigrating, the choice of destination country is significant. As someone who did it the slow and legal way, I think it pans out much better for all to emigrate to a country which actually welcomes you.
Um, no? It has the intent of helping police locate people who have been shot while committing a crime.
Cops aren’t supposed to shoot people who are not presenting an imminent danger to the someone’s life. No?
It could be a doing of a very small minority. Those who emigrate aren’t those who screwed up their own country, because those who screwed it up on purpose would be likely to remain.
Has Egypt never welcomed Palestinians, or only after they elected a terrorist organization to rule them?
Ok? And that’s relevant how?
It’s to my point that the required reporting that I’m aware of always has the intent of protecting human life. The person with a bullet in their body was either a victim (so their assailant should be found and prevented from shooting someone again) or the perp who got shot by cops and should be prevented from putting someone else’s life in danger.
YES! President Trump will agree with you and implement same ASAP. 
Define terrorist organization.
LTC @ home! Congress or exec. fiat?
TLDR; did she explain the source of the pretty penny that will cost?
Rx negotiation savings. That is a big #, hoping they can do the same with Medicaid too. What we pay for meds in US w/o negotiation is crazy