curious why we can’t just quarantine the high risk population?
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Why are so many people so hellbent on cherrypicking partial quotes then drawing conclusions on that, rather than replying to the full statement?
I specifically said “Some cities might get really bad, and some are already instituting lockdowns. But not nationwide.” You pointing out specific areas where it could happen isnt proving me wrong, it’s inherently agreeing with my point.
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Regret to report WV now has a case.
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I wonder about this… Anyone thinking more about this?
Wow, Mnuchin is floating 20% unemployment rate. I hate to say it, I can see it.
My brother is an airline pilot and most of his friends are now sitting at home. They tend to make good $ and also tend to spend quite a bit.
I should be ok, but I can already kiss next years bonus and raise goodbye since I work for an investor owned utilities
- The new coronavirus that’s rapidly spreading throughout the U.S. reached all 50 states on Tuesday as the U.S. death toll also passed 100.
- The virus has now infected more than 5,809 people across the country and killed at least 100.
- There were just 62 confirmed cases of the rapidly spreading virus in the U.S. on March 1, according to the World Health Organization.
The US stats on coronavirus infections are almost certainly wild underestimates as there is very little testing going on. It is very difficult to get a test.
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Italy has reported they found several thousand additional cases. Some are people who have been infected for a while, and don’t represent current spreading.
Don’t just make up stuff you know nothing about. I’m quite certain you have not conducted any epidemiological studies in Italy.
So far, people desperately trying to minimize this outbreak have been 100% wrong.
Movies to watch while sheltered in place: Contagion, Five Feet Apart
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I know, you’re the expert. So explain how, when someone tests positive, they know the infection occurred that day.
Pretty basic common sense makes it clear they’d have to be testing the same people day after day, to know if a positive result represents the virus spreading over the past 24 hours.
Or does the test result include some kind of a half-life of the virus, allowing them to pinpoint when that person became infected? Because that’d be huge - if I knew I became infected 4 hours ago and not 4 days ago, it’d eliminate a bunch of people I potentially exposed. It would change my whole opinion on the individual obsession with testing. Alas, I’m pretty sure that’s not the case.
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Who cares?? Everyone will be getting $1000! Then we can hoard more toilet paper!
IRS: Payment can be delayed for 90 days, but filing by 4/15 is still required.
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It doesn’t. AFAIK it takes several days incubation period (during which it’s also contagious) before the test would be positive. That means the test shows they WERE infected several days earlier. Or for new serious cases, it seems they often show up quickly with the serious symptoms so those would only be a couple days earlier.
BUT – The earlier you are assuming they were infected before being tested doesn’t mean they’re being over-represented in the new daily totals. That could also mean the actual numbers are likely even higher (because they’ve likely infected others in the interim).
You just keep digging the hole deeper. Why should I explain something I did not say and you just made up?
My sole motivation for replying to you is your deliberate spreading of misinformation.
Great, I’m still waiting for one K1 that’s having problem. I may have to apply for an extension.
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Of course not. But those day to day totals are being used to represent the current speed it is spreading. All it really represents is that it spread at some point, be it today or last week.
If you consider the possibility that the virus has been stateside well before tested began (which it clearly was since there’s still only been sparse testing today, the possibility is in how long it’s been here), the “exponential” growth may actually be much more stabilized. I’m not trying to be optimistic, and highly doubt it’s the case, but in theory it could actually be in decline at this point.
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Datapoint: Needed some pseudophedrine (great timing for sinusitus… @work doesn’t take this seriously. So I’m a lazy bum they think is faking. ). I was thinking it’d have a shortage, but walmart had a whole shelf of the various 12hr generics and 12hr and 24hr name brand.
But the rest of the grocery side was crazy. I wasn’t trying to shop (but I didn’t hoard and only bought a weeks’ worth or so about a week ago…) and keeping distance and acting like a germaphobe like I have been for the last 2 weeks. But basically all meat is empty. All bulk frozen. All paper goods (why? Although… it makes sense slightly higher demand if no take-out and people don’t wash dishes, etc). I bought a can of pears just because I’ve never bought a canned food before, forgot I don’t know if I have a canopener. Basically half of every other isle was also cleared out.
I got a few expensive microwave-cook bags of frozen vegetables like I usually buy, those weren’t out of stock.
I don’t get it. No one seems to really be taking it seriously (distancing, etc.). So why they bother to go clear out the stores, taking along their whole families with them to be more likely to spread the virus rather than just one person.
But R0 is much higher than 1. Doubling period is like 3-6 days. Odds are not likely that it just magically didn’t spread at all and you’re picking up more old cases than new ones that are being created today from those old cases.
If you are contending that a massive outbreak has not yet occurred, there is nothing else that has brought down R0. I can see what you’re line of thought is, it just doesn’t seem like the numbers work that way. Wish I could come up with a proof but I am not a mathematician. Of course I’m making assumptions based on available data and charts I’ve skimmed.
That said, you are correct there’s a lag in the data. If you look at other countries, it takes about 2 weeks to see any effect from a mitigation measure (like a lockdown). Then you see the slope on the logarithmic chart start to slowly decrease. Then about a month later (with a full lockdown – with just “distancing” this would not be expected anywhere near as quickly if at all), you see the peak cases and daily recoveries+deaths surpass the new cases.
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I was there Sunday, and found a few packages of toilet paper. I bought one, because I felt obligated. It was like succumbing to peer pressure.
Today, I found shelves much like you found. People werent noticably avoiding each other, but no one was packed in either (plus, we have no “confirmed” cases within something like 4 hours of us). I was a little impressed with my city - what was gone seemed to be rather logical stuff (common, generic, longer shelf life) while a lot of name brand, high price, and “luxury” items remained pretty well stocked.
I might venture out to the store tomorrow during lunch. and see how things are. So far, I haven’t encounter much craziness but I dont’ go to Costco either.
Dont’ you all think we all got a full basement of TP by now?