Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

His latest communications seem to be on par with prior behavior so it may be hard to tell.

He seems to have a very optimistic personality to say the least and he regularly tweets in the middle of the night. Plus I’m sure he’s in crunch time over the last 4 weeks of campaign so nobody would think much of him displaying both euphoria and sleeplessness. More business as usual if those are his side effects.

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LLY and REGN both out with good early stage results for their antibody treatments, and both will be seeking emergency use authorization. Supplies are relatively limited, and will be provided for free.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/iiroc-trading-halt-vrt-122000398.html

Incidentally you’d be up 10% if you bought REGN last week after Trump tested positive on Friday, expecting him to be treated with these and to get a move up on the free publicity. Sure it might have helped him too, but most people, even old overweight people, still come through with medical care and could still attribute their recovery to the treatment.

I was wrong about cost - the antibodies are somewhat more expensive, ballpark $10k/person for treatment. Trump was recently talking about how those would be available at no cost to the patients, although perhaps not as widely as one might like.

Standard weekly subcutaneous immunoglobulin infusions are billed at over $11,000 each, and don’t include corona virus antibodies. It might be more with CV-19 antibodies.

I’m confused and wondering what’s going on, and I’m not even on steroids! :grinning:

Specifically, I’m wondering if I contracted COVID-19 earlier this year. It never even occurred to me at the time. What I experienced was severe gastrointestinal symptoms which are, for me, quite unusual. There was no pain. I had coughing and shortness of breath from time to time, both of which I attributed to hay fever and asthma. There was no fever and no loss of smell or taste, I had no headaches.

But I’ve only recently somehow shaken off the gastrointestinal distress, which was with me for a month or six weeks. I was unaware at the time that gastrointestinal problems could be a symptom of COVID-19. I guess the disease expresses itself in a great many different ways in different people.

Anyway, bottom line, I think it’s more likely than not that my earlier problems were caused by something other than COVID-19, I dunno what. Still, the possibility lingers. I wish there were a way I could be tested safely to learn if I had the disease in the past, not whether or not I have it now.

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Yup, that’s what antibody tests are for, but the antibodies only stick around for a couple months.

I’m in a virtually identical place as you. I can say there was a time last winter where it wouldnt surprise me if Covid went through our household. I gave blood and tested negative for antibodies in August, but that was 6 months after the fact. At this point there’s no way to ever know, short of having a confirmed positive person blow directly into my face for a few hours to see if I get sick. I’m not quite prepared to go that far.

So Covid is the earth’s natural remedy for overpopulation?

But where do you obtain such a test? If anybody thinks I’m gonna go into a doctor’s office and sit in a closed waiting room until it’s my turn:

think again

I have no death wish.

Go give blood at a quite little Red Cross blood drive somewhere. Minimal contact. Assuming, of course, by “earlier this year” you mean the middle of the summer?

If you caught Covid, then I’m calling shenanigans and saying screw this whole thing. If you got it while getting oranges delivered to your house because you were being so cautious, there’s simply no avoiding it and there’s no reason to even pretend otherwise. :slight_smile:

Agreed. I have been really careful. My symptome more likely were from something else. But COVID-19 is a vicious virus and it might have found a way to sneak past my barriers.

Well for me today something new:

I just placed my first Instacart order

Supposedly somebody will be delivering, to my home later today, a lot of groceries from a small store ten miles distant.

This is gonna be interesting and I will report here how it turns out.

I had the anticipated problem with Instacart: they assume their customers all have cell phones that will accept texts. I do not.

Was able to work this out, I hope, on the telephone with the Instacart help line. A note was added to my order saying to call me, instead, if need be owing to problems with order, unavailability of items, and so forth. No text. We shall see if this works. Cell phones are a real PITA, and expensive, too.

So now I wait. I did more than double the suggested Instacart tip. But I live so far from the store; it still might not be enough to please an Instacart shopper/gig worker. So many unknowns. Much to learn about this process . . . . . . starting today.

But Google Voice is FREE and can receive texts and even forward them to your email! Some people say it’s the best thing since sliced bread!

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Landlines are absurdly expensive, guarantee you pay more than I do for cell phone.

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Landlines are real telephones. Cell phones are children’s toys.

Thanks. I need to look further into that. I use Google to make all my long distance calls for free, no exceptions. But those are all outgoing calls.

Use of Google for incoming contacts is something I must explore.

Instacart update

As posted above, today was my first Instacart experience. I had no clue at all what to expect. My only Instacart grocery store is small and is located in a town ten miles distant. Before the pandemic I seldom shopped that store, preferring to travel twenty miles in the opposite direction where I was able to shop for food in several much larger grocery stores. But those stores, when I entered my zip, were not available to me through Instacart. They are too distant, I guess.

Anyway bottom line, I am very well pleased with the Instacart service even with the aforementioned limitations. It would not be too much of a stretch to say I am delighted. I hope the gig worker who filled my order is also happy, and I think based on the rapidity and accuracy of service that she might be. It was a young woman with presumably far less virus vulnerability than my own as an older man with several comorbidities.

I can recommend Instacart based on this experience and I shall be using the service again. With the virus out there and becoming more prevalent with the changeover to cooler weather I don’t know why vulnerable persons would venture into a supermarket with service like Instacart available and affordable.

Agreed. For a long time here any number of posters have stipulated that HCQ must be used early to be of real help.

Abacuses are real calculators. Computers are children’s toys.

Telegraph is real Instant Messenger. Internet is child’s toy.

Shinobi is real grandpa. Get off his lawn!

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