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The FDA’s own scientific vaccine committee already looked at all the data and voted yesterday to approve the PFE vaccine. You can read the full minutes at the bottom of the article below if you’re interested.

At this point we’re just letting people die due to bureaucratic delays, all the more so because the people who will get the vaccine first are very likely to need and benefit from it.

And the press can’t help themselves from trying to spin this as Trump interference with the science/review process rather than trying to save lives, and by spinning the news this way, they are undermining public confidence in the vaccine that by all accounts is quite safe and well worth the risks to be given to the public. The left wing press has blood on their hands, again.

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https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-key-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19

Vaccines: Magic or Science?
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Aoc making cogent, common sense observations?

You do realize that “miracle” is not spelled m-a-g-i-c, right?

And once again, you are the only one calling it “magic”, then desperately trying to attribute it to Trump. Instead of what he actually said.

“This is one of the greatest scientific accomplishments in history,” he said from the Oval Office.

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Both refer to supernatural causes.

Yes, somehow a Trump “accomplishment”. He’s shown all those lib scientists, outdoing them. That isn’t at odds with his miracle description.

Can’t just have fun with the article headline? Y so serious?

“Here’s what’s ironic to me, all these Republicans, all these people who were anti-shut down, were the same people who weren’t wearing masks, who forced us to shut down in the first place,” she said Friday night

Except in reality everyone was listening to those infallible scientists you keep insisting we should listen to…

“So if you’re anti-shutdown, you better have been wearing a mask all damn year, because don’t come to me and say you’re anti-shutdown when you’re spreading COVID all over the place, potentially

At least she got the “potentially” in there. Because 95% of people are in fact not spreading anything all over anywhere. And those that are, they’re spreading it to 2-3 people.

Funny how 9 months later, people still talk about this virus in term that, if remotely accurate, would’ve resulted in nearly 100% of the population being infected within 3-4 weeks.

But then again, she’s apparently such the expert that she’s been updating her followers about Covid relief since 2018…

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Sounds like it’s appropriate to limit risk in them since they’re so far up the list? Would be nice if there were a federal plan and impacted businesses were compensated. It’s an unfair situation.

Obviously. It’s much harder to contact trace to a specific “place” like those as opposed to a house and spread between members. Is that the point being made? Non household will just be labeled “community spread”, that doesn’t mean it didn’t occur at one of the known transmission places, just that it couldn’t be easily linked to one specifically with high confidence.

1 less prospect (before end of 2021). :frowning:

Good thing we have several 100 million pfizer doses already reserved and didn’t bank on spreading orders to unproven candidates.

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FTFY

At minimum, we’ll get our fair cut (likely due to Biden’s global philosophy voluntarily giving us lower priority). Otherwise, we will get them all, simply by not allowing them to be exported.

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Moderna’s looking the best for now anyway, both on safety and logistics, and the government ordered their Q2 production for another 100M of theirs -

so 100M now and Q1 and a similar amount for Q2. So between the 100M of PFE and 200 MRNAs that’s already 150M people’s worth and that’s without the AZN one or expropriating the PFE Q2 production or similar. Throw out the half the US who believe the left wing press about how unsafe it is and some far right anti-vaxxers and you’re getting pretty close to everyone who hasn’t already gotten it…

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Sorry for contributing more off topic politics to what I thought/hoped was a less political thread, but … when did anti-vaxxers become far right. I thought the whole concept originated in California?

Trumpism.

He was elected by somehow losing few GOP voters, and drawing in a “basket of deplorables” in addition, to use the phrase that sank Hillary’s campaign.

so what’s the best way to get a vaccine ASAP? Wife is In the healthcare field but not in direct care. Her parents are 75+ in the vulnerable population, but not in nursing homes… yet

Keep tabs on your local hospitals and see when they will be offering it. Your wife might be offered it sooner, but for generic old people, who will probably be the next tranche after healthcare and nursing homes, you’ll want to make sure you get out there and sign up / volunteer / follow whatever process to try to get it.

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Yeah My wife teaches RNs but not in direct care her self so…

This is why it’s such a cluster, even those of us who want it have no national system of getting it . Typical you figure it out, good luck! Warp speed!

I wonder how many folks on the left would have accused the US administration of using/abusing its wealth to hoard PFE vaccines at the expense of poor countries, should we had purchased 200 million instead of 100 million doses.

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Spending for vaccine actual purchases is pennies compared to the economic and loss of life damages that have been incurred. How could you have “too much” effective vaccines? If we did we could use the extra for allies or to repair American soft influence. (Like China and Russia are doing now, instead…)

You missed my point. It isn’t an issue of money for the US. But for those who will find wrong on anything the administration does, securing more doses would have been seen as wrong… somehow. It has become a matter of finding wrong with what the other side does, no matter what.

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