Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

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Agreed. I could see nursing homes and cancer wards (and similar medical establishments that immunocompromised people frequent) making a good case that their employees need to be vaccinated. But not most places of employment.

I am really tired of the default position for so many people, after all the data we have collected, that COVID is dangerous to everyone when it clearly isn’t.\

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Dr. Fauci is now recommending everyone wear masks over their eyes so they cannot read his leaked emails. :slightly_smiling_face:

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The problem for Fauci is that the internet never forgets. Get a load of Fauci here:

A flu virus risk worth taking

. . . . important information and insights can come from generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory.

Fauci got his research, bought and paid for with our tax dollars, along with three million dead worldwide so far, 600,000 dead Americans, and more people dying with each passing day, all thanks to COVID-19.

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Hmm

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More origins coverage on how the covid sequence suggests lab engineering.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184
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the most compelling reason to favor the lab leak hypothesis is firmly based in science. In particular, consider the genetic fingerprint of CoV-2, the novel coronavirus responsible for the disease Covid-19. In the case of the gain-of-function supercharge, other sequences could have been spliced into this same site. Instead of a CGG-CGG (known as “double CGG”) that tells the protein factory to make two arginine amino acids in a row, you’ll obtain equal lethality by splicing any one of 35 of the other two-word combinations for double arginine. If the insertion takes place naturally, say through recombination, then one of those 35 other sequences is far more likely to appear; CGG is rarely used in the class of coronaviruses that can recombine with CoV-2.

In fact, in the entire class of coronaviruses that includes CoV-2, the CGG-CGG combination has never been found naturally. That means the common method of viruses picking up new skills, called recombination, cannot operate here. A virus simply cannot pick up a sequence from another virus if that sequence isn’t present in any other virus.

Although the double CGG is suppressed naturally, the opposite is true in laboratory work. The insertion sequence of choice is the double CGG. That’s because it is readily available and convenient, and scientists have a great deal of experience inserting it. An additional advantage of the double CGG sequence compared with the other 35 possible choices: It creates a useful beacon that permits the scientists to track the insertion in the laboratory.

Now the damning fact. It was this exact sequence that appears in CoV-2. Proponents of zoonotic origin must explain why the novel coronavirus, when it mutated or recombined, happened to pick its least favorite combination, the double CGG. Why did it replicate the choice the lab’s gain-of-function researchers would have made? Yes, it could have happened randomly, through mutations. But do you believe that?

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Footprint or fingerprint? Can the opinion writer make up their mind?

Rumors of US intelligence on covid origins. Hard to judge this, but potentially consistent with the big political shift in accepting this possibility.

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Do I believe that it could have happened randomly, even though you [opinion author] just wrote “yes, it could have happened randomly”? LOL.

I read that as “Yes it could have happened randomly, but do you believe that it did happen randomly?”

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Trump publicly covered for and praised his pal Xi for transparency through February and then hid the intelligence reports about possibility of a lab leak? You don’t say?

Only you can do the mental gymnastics required to blame Trump for hiding support for a theory that the rest of the country called a him and anyone who repeated it a conspiracy theorist for spreading. Very impressive.

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Raving like a lunatic while hiding any actual evidence is very effective cover.

India and Peru, more ivermectin info and recently both have stopped recommending it despite very good results.

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Good post, xerty. Medical politics is very thick. And the profit motive among corporate leaders in the medical community is as pronounced, if not more so, as anywhere else.

Oh $#&! I snorted. Thank you! It’s nice to wind down a long day with a snort. :smile:

is amazing, apparently. He can not only get you to think “politics first” in a coronavirus thread (that’s not so amazing), but he now has a 1b,1.5b, 780 sq. ft. in Austin rent free. :smile:

You’ve pointed out an obvious deficiency. He omitted foolprint. :smile:

Another ivermectin meta analysis showing lots of good results. Hard to attribute faster viral clearance or mortality to study biases. 60-70% improvements vs controls depending on what was measured.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/rmv.2265

A total of 19 studies with 2768 Covid-19 patients were included in this meta-analysis. This meta-analysis showed that ivermectin was associated with reduction in severity of Covid-19 (RR 0.43 [95% CI 0.23–0.81], p = 0.008), reduction of mortality (RR 0.31 [95% CI 0.15–0.62], p = 0.001), higher negative RT-PCR test results rate (RR 1.23 [95% CI 1.01–1.51], p = 0.04), shorter time to negative RT-PCR test results (mean difference [MD] −3.29 [95% CI −5.69, −0.89], p = 0.007), higher symptoms alleviations rate (RR 1.23 [95% CI 1.03−1.46], p = 0.02), shorter time to symptoms alleviations (MD −0.68 [95% CI −1.07, −0.29], p = 0.0007) and shorter time to hospital discharge (MD −2.66 [95% CI −4.49, −0.82], p = 0.004). Our study suggests that ivermectin may offer beneficial effects towards Covid-19 outcomes.

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Persons who wish to go on living had best become aware of this:

New Delta variant could mean victory for COVID-19 despite our vaccines

This variant originated in India.