Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

That made me laugh. I had forgotten, but of course you are right. :grinning:

What a poser.

Omnicron BA2 is now about 1/3 of all US cases.

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Recently a couple MSM articles appears touting new studies that claimed to show strong support for the natural (non-lab) origin hypothesis. For example,

What goes unsaid, was that these are just preprints, not yet peer reviewed or published articles, so basically it’s just the authors pumping their conclusions rather than facts or careful analysis.

It turns out these authors include many of those on the Fauci conspiracy emails, where they told him it looked unnatural but then, after an unrecorded zoom call, everyone who still wanted NIH funded for their careers got on board and published numerous hit jobs on the possible lab leak hypothesis. Why we shouldn’t believe them this time, in less or more detail respectively -

This was quite well done, good at 2x.

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CA proposed laws for more covid related powers.

  • mandatory covid vaccines to attend schools for kids, including private schools
  • pressure kids as young as 12 to get it at school without parental consent
  • empower medical boards to sanction any doctor who “spreads misinformation”
  • civil penalties for social media use that spreads “misinformation”, especially about medical or election topics, requires the social media company to facilities flagging of such and reporting to the CA AG for persecution
  • mandatory disclosure of your vaccination status to your employer work in the state, and from your doctor’s office to disclose your vaccine related data to the proposed state vaccine database without your permission

Not letting a crisis go to waste it seems. TBD on how much of these pass, but what good CA Democrat would oppose more right-thinking government powers in the fight against anti-vaxxers who are really just today’s terrorists?

https://miamistandard.news/2022/03/25/california-is-being-destroyed-with-horrible-laws-the-unity-project-and-others-are-fighting-for-freedom-for-the-people-of-california/

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My executive summary for your post:

Follow the money

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When it comes to deep blue, western, coastal, California, one is wise to expect little more from a pig than a grunt.

Kern County, on the other hand, continues to celebrate freedom and liberty.

Is it something in the Pacific Ocean that infects those western California people? It does connect them to Red China, in a manner of speaking. Wonder if that is the problem.

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And a decent opinion article on Emperor Newsom and his governing by fiat.

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shinobi, I noticed that you made a exception, Kern County, CA. Very interesting exception. Certainly caught my attention. I was born in Bakersfield, the heart of Kern County California.

No connection to Red China, more likely Red Neck American folks that love our country. Yes we’re country bound and completely different from coastal eastern urban Democrats. :blush:

Sorry to say I live in a Democrat state but we are happily connected to the smarter Conservatives Republicans.

A great rundown on ivermectin and “follow the money” by the guys at Cato.

https://www.cato.org/regulation/spring-2022/ivermectin-statistical-significance

And separately from the EPOCH TIMES:

In a classic case of one hand not knowing what the other is doing, a Virginia doctor (in this case, our esteemed Dr. Paul Marik) has been awarded a legislative commendation for his study into alternative treatments of COVID-19 just a few days before the state’s medical licensing board informed him he was under investigation for misconduct— for the same work.

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Dozens and dozens of ivermectin recovery stories. Broadly these are not “I just got covid, took it, and got better”, which of course you’d expect to happen often since most people survive covid anyway. These are serious cases where the hospitalized or otherwise very badly off covid patients make a dramatic and unexpected turnaround when given the medicine, often secretly by their family members while their loved one is hospitalized.

His father was admitted to the University of Tennessee hospital critically ill from COVID-19. They gave him one dose of Ivermectin —ostensibly to see if his symptoms were being caused by any parasitic diseases, and when he did not improve, his family was told he might have to be placed on a ventilator. The physician informed the family that due to extensive lung scarring, the dad would not likely survive. They called in hospice and began to prepare the family for his eventual death.

In the meantime, because his dad was not yet on a ventilator, the son procured some Ivermectin from a friend who had ordered it from India. This week, he gave it to his father on Tuesday and Wednesday —and of course, did not inform the hospital. There was no immediate improvement.

But…. This morning the father texted the family from his hospital bed that something was happening. He told the family he would text them back shortly. When he did, his message was that he had made a significant turnaround. His doctors came in and told him they had never seen anything like it and they don’t understand what caused him to turn around so quickly and so dramatically. They told him he would be discharged by the end of the week or the weekend because of his “miracle” turnaround.

The son indicated he would agree to let us use this story once his father is out of the hospital in a couple of days. Thought you would all like to hear this.

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“Huge Shock (not)” - Teachers’ unions input at CDC contributed big time to school closures

It’s a Democrat administration. The teachers’ unions have a LOT of power. And they used it!

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention allowed the nation’s second-largest teachers union to help write COVID-19 guidelines that led to extended school closures during the pandemic, according to a new report released Wednesday.

The findings are included in a House GOP interim report issued by the conference’s Select Committee on the Coronavirus Crisis, which is investigating how the government responded to the pandemic,

The committee’s investigators found that union officials “wrote key portions” of the CDC’s February 2021 report setting guidelines for when and how schools should reopen.

Documents in the report show the White House and CDC staff communicating extensively with union officials about a draft of the school reopening guidance before it was issued on Feb. 12, 2021.

“Biden’s CDC overrode routine practice to allow a radical teachers union that donated millions of dollars to Democrat campaigns to bypass scientific norms and rewrite official agency guidance,”

Read full story here

Teachers’ unions prioritize the teachers, NOT the kids.

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They just can’t help themselves.

Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo.

For a treatment best used early, if not proactively, 7 days already renders it obsolete. But we don’t even need to worry about that, because…

A total of 3515 patients were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (679 patients), placebo (679), or another intervention (2157).

60% of this 3500-person study were given some other treatment and are irrelevant to the stated results.

Overall, 100 patients (14.7%) in the ivermectin group had a primary-outcome event, as compared with 111 (16.3%) in the placebo group

So that’s a 10% reduction. I get statistical significance, but if it’s not significant enough to show effectiveness, it’s also not significant enough to prove a lack of effectiveness.

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I can’t believe I read, much less, am quoting, a Vanity aFair article but it seems appropriate to this thread. This article is on Fauci, Daszak, Wuhan experiments, and the “circle the wagon” mentality at the NIH.

As for transparency-minded scientists in the U.S., Daszak early on set about covertly organizing a letter in the Lancet medical journal that sought to present the lab-leak hypothesis as a groundless and destructive conspiracy theory. And Fauci and a small group of scientists, including Andersen and Garry, worked to enshrine the natural-origin theory during confidential discussions in early February 2020, even though several of them privately expressed that they felt a lab-related incident was likelier. Just days before those discussions began, Vanity Fair has learned, Dr. Robert Redfield, a virologist and the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), had urged Fauci privately to vigorously investigate both the lab and natural hypotheses. He was then excluded from the ensuing discussions—learning only later that they’d even occurred. “Their goal was to have a single narrative,” Redfield told Vanity Fair.

Yeah, 'ol doc Fauci is an h̶o̶n̶o̶r̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶i̶n̶c̶e̶ unapologetic political animal.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/molnupiravir-the-drug-that-could-eliminate-covid-in-three-days/ar-AAVNROb?li=BBnb7Kz

The MSD study shows that after five days those treated with the drug remained virus-free, while the other group (placebo) still detected 2.2% of the virus.

So after 5 days, none who took the drug remained infected, while 2 that took the placebo did remain infected. (There were less than 100 people in either group.)

However, the study indicates that “many patients” who received the placebo took up to five days to clear the virus, and some took even longer.

If they already established that only 2 remained positive after 5 days, “some” must mean “2”?

The 3-day effect was more significant, but even that only reflected a difference of 20 people. If you can replicate the results in multiple similar-sized studies, sure, but does the results from 20 people really establish anything conclusive?

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To pre-answer the question I was going to ask, (which follows the @shinobi mantra of following the money) who owns the rights to the “current covid miracle drug” …
It was then acquired by Miami-based company Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, which later partnered with Merck & Co. to develop the drug further.

So, to answer your question, yes the results from a 20 person study are not only significant and conclusive, they are SCIENCE. Welcome to the modern science of global c̶o̶o̶l̶i̶n̶g̶/w̶a̶r̶m̶i̶n̶g̶/weather.

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Sotrovimab is no longer authorized to treat COVID-19 in any U .S. region due to increases in the proportion of COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron BA .2 sub-variant - FDA

China lockdowns. Orders for delivery only, and not much was available, except maybe cake??

https://twitter.com/Jaredtnelson/status/1512087351282987011

Others, often citing “friends in Shanghai claim everything is ok

That’s what friends, thousands of Facebook bots, thousand of Twitter bots, and Chicomm officials are saying. There were some posts and videos which said otherwise, but they’ve disappeared … along with the people who wrote them. :slight_smile:

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Disability $ for long Covid coming. Not to belittle the actual sufferers, but this is going to get scammed as hard as the PPP money.

Speaking of long covid, here’s a survey of unlucky kids.

https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/fmb-2021-0285

Long COVID children had experienced complex changes since COVID-19 infection (Figure 2 & Supplementary Table 3). The most frequently reported changes were related to energy levels (425 children; 83.3% of sample), mood (300 children; 58.8% of sample), sleep (287 children; 56.3% of sample) and appetite (253 children; 49.6% of sample). Changes in appetite were significant in children with confirmed/unconfirmed COVID-19 and occurred similarly in those with or without pre-existing conditions. Overall, all children had had at least one change, and 325 (63.7%) had had at least four changes since their COVID-19 infection. The proportion of those with at least four changes was >60% independent of whether they had had pre-COVID conditions

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Fauci giving up on the herd

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