Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

Can someone explain how I’m supposed to interpret this? 70% of what?

It’s not 70%. It’s %70.

Secede the Union! :joy:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/apr/17/king-county-gets-new-glimpse-into-unreported-cases/

“Of the 4,092 King County residents who registered for SCAN during that period, 2,700 of them had reported having COVID-like illness (fever, cough or shortness of breath) in the past seven days. Of those, 44 tested positive for the disease, [according to the report]

This to me is reasurring. Only ~1% of people tested with at least one symptom had COVID19 And its King County (Seattle) which had been a hot spot. I’d feared that there might be a lot more people infected than we realized.

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Maybe they should open the beaches today!?

Florida man already did, didn’t he?

Hell yeah! Jax beaches are open with “restrictions”. Photos showed no one obeyed the restrictions. Now people living in other FL counties will be driving to Jax beaches, which is precisely what other states are trying to avoid.

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It’s bait to get everyone in one place…

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Trump’s announcement of “reopening the country” was bait to boost the stock market. Nothing else.

In case you wondered why testing got off to such a bad start here in the US, the answer is “the CDC screwed up”. Eventually, after months of delay, their flawed manufacturing was allowed to be outsourced to the private sector. More detail than you probably wanted:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/contamination-at-cdc-lab-delayed-rollout-of-coronavirus-tests/ar-BB12Q90W

is a word, but the word y’all are looking for is asymptomatic.

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This is a travesty!

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Indeed. Blame my computer’s autocratic :wink:

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Therefore, the right thing to do now is for Trump to stop funding the CDC.

No, no. Wait for next week: "CDC failed. Im firing the director. I appoint Dr. Phil as the new acting director! Very well known doctor. I had a cousin… or an uncle… someone anyway who worked at Hatvard… And he told me Dr Phil is the best doctor. "

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Wrote that a day ago. Now seeing the following, out of Australia, published today:

One of Australia’s most eminent vaccine developers says there may never be a vaccine against COVID-19 for some very good reasons.

Professor Ian Frazer, the immunologist who co-invented the human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine which prevents cervical cancer, said a coronavirus vaccine was “tricky”.

He told news.com.au that although 100 different teams around the world were testing for vaccines, medical scientists did not have a model of how to attack the virus.

The professor of medicine at Queensland University, which is testing for its own COVID-19 vaccine, said immunisation against coronavirus was similar to immunising against the common cold.

“It is tricky, vaccines for upper respiratory tract diseases, because the virus lands on the outside of you,” Prof Frazer said.

“Think of us as a football, with the skin and respiratory tract on the outside of the football and the lungs are where the outside interfaces with the inside.

“The place where the virus lands is outside us and it tries to infect the cells within us.

“Our immune system is inside of us. When it lands inside our lungs it tries to infect our cells and succeeds. Our immune system goes to fight the virus and that’s why people get sick.

“If the immune system turns on too strong it can cause damage to the lungs.

“The wrong vaccine could make things worse so we have to be very selective about what part of the virus we want to attack.

“If you immunise someone with a vaccine, it goes inside and makes an immune response within you.

“What you want is an immune response to migrate out to where the virus lands.

“There is no vaccine against the common cold.”

No vaccine for coronavirus a possibility

Well at least the CDC works for us instead of covering up the Chinese Commuist Party’s failings, so maybe we can keep them on the payroll after firing a few people for that big manufacturing screwup.

As for the WHO, here are a few less than charitable perspectives on both the organization’s actions in the recent crisis and their leadership’s history. Your choice of a long laundry list of poor or complicit decision making, or an entertaining Daily Show style video news roundup:

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Did you guys hear? A law firm in Florida is trying to sue China over the coronavirus and other countries are trying to get in on that class action suit.

Can private citizens like us get in on that action?

If China is found guilty, and forced to pay, this could lead to WW III.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/lawsuit-pandemic-negligence-wuhan/2020/04/13/id/962681/

From one of those articles it says :

"Legal experts say China will likely cite in its defense the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act (FSIA), a doctrine that states a government cannot commit a legal wrong and is immune from civil suit or criminal prosecution."

then they just blah blah blah past that…

Don’t be silly. We’re not going to give up our iphones.

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Kyle Bass is a hedge fund guy with a long experience with China and Hong Kong. He gave an interview which touched on some of the possible consequences, legal and economic, if the US or other countries decided China was at fault for the pandemic. Speculative of course, but he’s well informed.