And where is a 12 year old even expected to consent to it? Puberty blockers do not cause the sterility. That only comes from the cross-sex hormones and those come later.
The fact that most people who take puberty blockers go on to take cross sex hormones doesn’t mean the puberty blockers cause the effects the hormones do. They are two separate decisions, no 12 year old should be making the latter but none are.
It’s not “most”, it’s nearly all. Last stat I saw was 98%. If the terrible adults in your life push you into puberty blockers at 12, you are nearly guaranteed to lose all sexual function. Blocking puberty completely is dangerous and there isn’t a single study saying it isn’t. There is also no evidence it helps people in the long-term more than letting them go through puberty and transition later if they wish (which also has negligible benefits, statistically).
You’re not proving anything here. Yes, almost all do. That is not a decision they are making at 12, though.
And where’s a study saying it is dangerous to delay puberty??
And it does help them because it lessens the wrong-gender development.
Turning them into a science experiment is not “helping” them. Manipulating development with chemicals is the polar opposite of normal. Gender is a developmental fact, there simply is no such thing being physiologically “wrong”. If you feel your gender is wrong, it is a physchological issue and needs to be treated as a psychological issue.
This ‘movement’ is pure insanity.
Attempting to treat it as a psychological issue has been an utter failure. Transition isn’t a good choice, it’s a least-bad choice.
Has it? In decades past, when we used a psychological approach to treatment, trans people were 1 in 50,000.
Now that we’re doing the butchers shop approach, and not very much the psychological approach, trans people are 5%, or 1 in 20.
There was no useful treatment, there was lots of ostracism, why would people get diagnosed?
And your survey doesn’t match the headline.
Fact 1: We currently live in the most socially acceptable time to be transgender.
Fact 2: We currently live it a time in which transgender affirmative “care” is more accessible than it has ever been and one is more likely to get that care than the alternative if you ask for it.
Fact 3: We currently live in a time with the highest teen suicide rate among gender non-conforming youth.
If your hypothesis were correct, that last fact wouldn’t be a fact.
Now tell us what you think about cancer 
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Until about 50 years ago they said this about gays (and in many places they still do).
And I’m not saying you’re wrong, only that you could be.
You are correct - maybe we should start removing pieces of brain to make room for that tumor to keep growing. Or perhaps prescribe a larger diet to ensure your tapeworm is fully fed.
I’ve said before, this “treatment” is the equivalent of treating a pedophile by dropping off a 8 year old at his door twice a week. It’s insane.
There still is no useful treatment, beyond treating the symptoms like depression.
They live a happier life.
But there was a reason we said this about gays, specifically because of gay sex and outwardly gay relationships. It was because the vast majority of society looked down upon certain sexual proclivities that went against Judeo Christian morals. When someone was interested in behaving immorally, they were either a criminal that needed to be locked away, someone with a mental disorder that should be diagnosed and treated, or someone that should be shunned from politie society (or some combination of the three). That essentially isn’t the case anymore. There are several reasons for that, but I would contend it mostly stems from the sexual revolution and birth control. Those led to more sex outside marriage. Sex outside marriage becoming accepted paved the way for gay sex to be accepted. Then outwardly gay relationships.
But there are actually very few parallels between homosexuality and transsexuality/transgenderism (I’ll stick with transgenderism from here on for simplicity). Homosexuality is about same sex attraction. Transgenderism (according to its activists) is about one’s gender identity not matching their sex. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction. You can be transgender with any spectrum of sexual attractions (same sex, opposite sex, other transgenders, asexual, etc). The opposition to many of the things that go along with transgender acceptance aren’t rooted in Judeo Christian morals. They are rooted in biological facts and our species’ general desire for sex segregation in many behaviors/activities.
There is also the fact that gays don’t have a desire to mutilate their bodies, while transgenders often do. Up until recently, viewing your body as “wrong” was considered a sign of mental illness, and wanting to alter your healthy body in a destructive manner was considered severe mental illness. We haven’t, as a society, decided that altering your healthy body in a destructive manner is now acceptable. We have ONLY been told by transgender activists (and doctors that make money off the treatment) that it is acceptable for a certain subset of people, but is still a mental illness for others. They have made an exception for an accepted belief for no good reason and haven’t bothered to convince the skeptics why there should be an exception.
I can go on and on about how there is very little comparison between the two (homosexuality and transgenderism), but I think you get my point.
The studies that have tried to support a conclusion on whether or not that is the case, specifically the ones on transgender individuals that started treatment before reaching the age of maturity, are all over the map. There is not a single good study that broadly concludes that kids who begin transitioning before puberty, during puberty, or shortly after puberty live a happier life than kids that receive treatment meant to help them come to terms with with their biological sex.
The suicide rate is lower for those who get help than for those who they ignore or try to talk out of it.
Where is the study that says this? How far out does it go?
Good review of the ambitious claims and the studies behind them for these gender transitions.
As I go through these studies one by one, I’ll show not only that such claims of causality are not supported by the evidence (as made clear, at times, by the authors themselves), but also that some of the studies Turban cites actually show no or even negative association between hormones and mental health.
the study could not reliably distinguish the effects of hormonal and surgical interventions from those of psychotherapy.
for their research on puberty blockers, the Dutch team excluded from the outset cases that would have cast doubt on the safety or efficacy of puberty blockers. It is hard to imagine a more obvious example of selection bias.
[Huckins’ piece] is a total mischaracterization of our research! We said practically the opposite: gender affirming hormones did not reduce psychiatric problems or improve the adolescents’ functional level.
Here is what Turban should have said, had he written as a scientist rather than an activist:
To date, some studies have shown positive correlations between receiving hormones and improved mental health, but the improvements tend to be modest and regardless, there is no ability to know whether they are because of the hormones or some other factor (such as psychotherapy or familial support). Other studies have shown no or even a negative association between hormones and mental health. Given the gravity of these interventions and their known and believed side-effects, there is an urgent need to know more about the risks and benefits of hormonal interventions for adolescents who experience gender-related distress. It is time for the United States to follow its European counterparts and conduct a systematic review of the evidence, meantime putting all hormonal interventions on hold.
Sounds to me like there are lots of factors involved (which hormones, psych care, family care, etc) and it’s easy to read the studies one way or the other based on your politics. At best, these are correlations and not causality with any outcomes, and most of the people treated don’t fit the profile of young teen girls seeking (or being coerced into seeking) these treatments presently in the US so applicability is suspect regardless.
Also, all of Europe are a bunch of transphobic bigots for banning all this stuff for minors. Or maybe we’re just insane for not doing so.
…as would the forementioned pedophile.
Your “happier life” argument only applies to if it’s the “right” things making you happy. Otherwise, your argument is “shut up, suck it up, and get over it”. That’s hypocrisy. Either you have a standard that applies to everyone, or you have no standards.
And whether you consider it to be disease or not (meaning a condition needing to be fixed, or not), it is an entirely psychological state. A blood test, physical, or autopsy cannot determine if one is gay, just like it cannot determine if one is trans. Be it a conscious choice or not, it is in fact all on your head.
That’s about the only parallel between the “gays” and “trans” issues. Any further attempt to parallel the two issues results in the trans issue being a gay guy demanding to chop off his willie so that he can then be a she and legitimately hook up with the dudes he is attracted to. (Which, to be clear, would be a equally insane argument.)
One (gay) is accepting what you are. The other (trans) is inherently rejecting what you are and instead demanding that others pretend you are something else.
Actually I was referring to the fact that until about 50 years ago homosexuality was considered a psychological illness and was listed in the associated medical literature as such. That’s what’s common between homosexuality then and transgenderism now.