I was going to say, isn’t there more controversy over the use of “Dr.” within the medical field, regarding certain specialties?
Well, the two “specialties” I referenced don’t go to real medical school and aren’t real doctors…
You were talking about disenfranchising the 10 million Biden voters
Sure, it would. And nearly that many Trump voters too. But let’s not mention that, since it’d kill the narrative and it’s implications.
Pursuing a claim with such drastic consequences should be making it clear just how significant and serious they consider this issue. What is petty and self-serving and irresponsible is refusing to even pretend to give the issues any respect, demanding they be summarily rejected and dropped before getting their due consideration.
People laughed when Trump-prompted recounts added to Biden’s total - ignoring the fact that in the pursuit of election accuracy, any change in the totals is a success. It sends the message that Democrats don’t care about accuracy, they just want to win regardless of any errors or irregularities.
I agree that the question was loaded as throwing away the votes of millions of people would have disenfranchised just a fraction more Biden voters than Trump voters in these 4 States.
But wasn’t this position somewhat validated by the SCOTUS quickly dismissing it though? Even Alito and Thomas did not dissent on the unanimous decision that the lawsuit had no merit. A positive is that we should not revisit this situation ever again (a State contesting results in another State) but wasn’t that basically the obviously expected outcome since election results are independent in each State anyway?
I think on the back of 30+ lawsuits that were expeditiously dismissed by various courts in several states (many by Trump appointed judges), and many recounts that did not find any kind of widespread fraud as claimed, it is that big an overreach to dismiss the Texas lawsuit as a purely political power play to get pardons and/or butter up Trump with no real consequences since nobody really expected it to go anywhere. That lawsuit was DOA, everybody knew it, especially State AGs, and happily joined in to get their get-out-of-jail card “See! I did everything I could for Trump so keep electing me even when he’s no longer POTUS.”
To be clear, I’m strongly in favor of recounts when results are close enough, and lawsuits if they have merit and are grounded in a minimum of facts. However, to me, what I’ve seen in recent weeks is widespread questioning and extravagant claims on the integrity of the election without a shred of evidence presented to any court. Where is the accountability for wasting everyone’s time and constantly undermining confidence in an election that you don’t have any fact-based reason to doubt the integrity of? When does it become disingenuous to keep filing bogus lawsuits and outrageous claims just because you can? When you’ve milked your donors as long as you possibly could?
It’s blipping time to move on. The election was fair enough by all the evidence that was available. For many people, I think it ended up in a place somewhere between what they wanted and what they feared. Now let’s focus more on things that matter like the GA runoff, COVID-19 vaccine distribution, a smooth transition so our troops are not in danger and the country doesn’t lose more ground on China than we already did, and a relief bill that’s overdue.
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And they had better not, since the original word in Latin means “teacher”.
There’s the specific case, and then there’s the issue. This case was turned away by the Supreme Court (due to Texas’s lack of standing to bring the case?). But the issue has repeatedly been put on the table, and repeatedly been swept under the rug, for 6+ months now.
I know you aren’t saying this, but to use the court decision(s) to validate having been so curtly dismissive is kind of like using the fact you got to grandma’s house in one piece validates that it is safe to ignore the speed limit.
“Joe Biden has been going through a transition with President Trump supporting him,” Scalise responded. “Let’s let this legal process play itself out.”
That should’ve been everyone’s attitude all along. If you think there is or was any inpropriety, challenge it as you are allowed to do. Let the legal process play itself out. Not let a certain party annoint themselves judge and jury, just expecting everyone to go along with how they see it.
Frivolous lawsuits were literally the big thing Republicans wanted stop awhile ago.
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At what point do you reach absurdity? McCain and Romney could have done the same thing but they put Country first by conceding. It sends a clear message to your base that ok our ideas didn’t win this time lets be Americans rather than the “other side”.
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Frivolous lawsuits are also part of that process. They’re not considered frivolous simply because a few random people shout BASELESS!
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We’ve been at the point of absurdity for months. This is just the pinacle, the very forseeable consequence of having put so much effort into denouncing concerns about potential impropriety leading up the the election. Putting so much effort into preempting the legal process is just going to make them more intent on using that process to it’s fullest extent.
Time to Heel. the latest message of unity from MSM to the deplorables.
I well remember a time when the conservative values and perspectives I continue to hold dear today were commonplace, routine, and very widely respected. Of course I also remember, from back in those days, the radical, dope smoking, nut cases out in the Haight. Nobody back then worried much about them because they were insane and, as well, reasonably contained.
Today a descendant, politically speaking, of those Haight crazies is the Vice President elect of the United States of America! While some people label that progress, from my perspective it exemplifies the USA about to cross the political equivalent of a black hole event horizon.
Free Market!!! Unless the free market demands common decency from businesses and individuals they interact with. that’s infringing on freedumbs! That’s “cancel culture”!
No law or order allowed! Down with government! All government does is agree on “rules”, which are bad!
Did I paraphrase correctly?
The lack of cooperation this year (in USA) has been pretty disappointing, not that that’s the same thing as a surprise. The people following the rules have paid the most. The “jerks” minority have deepened the economic and loss of life costs and extended the day-to-day impacts on everyone else, all while paying the least.
No. It’s not free market, cooperation, infringing, or whatever. It’s simple bullying.
If you dont like something, the free market allows you to go elsewhere. The problem is, you dont just go elsewhere, you also threaten anyone who doesnt agree with you that they need to follow you elsewhere or you’ll tear them apart with the same viger as your initial target. It results in a small, vocal, and often violent (in words, if not action) minority that is dictating the no-longer-free market’s direction.
The lack of cooperation has been disappointing. I’ve said exactly that numerous times. The attitude you’ve consistently expressed actively sabatoges any opportunity for cooperation. “I’m right, and if you refuse to agree then you’re just a terrible person” - that’s a great way to build consensus.
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Definitely. You’re describing qanon/“MAGA” pretty accurately. You’re even describing the title of this thread… “If I don’t like who’s elected, I’m going to start a civil war!”
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Yes that whole mob will be back in the White House again. Following Obama, but this time those
lunatic Libs will bend even lower to the left.
I don’t know what to say about our Republican leader’s this past year. I know they understood how these mail in ballots could turn into fraud & corruptness. Knowing all this in advance & they let it happen.
Terrible next few political years. Biden tells us “right off the bat”.
Tear down that fence, open up the border, Medicare for all (especially illegals), raise taxes (must have more funds), keep the schools closed. On & on… And I haven’t even mentioned “leave my son Hunter alone”.
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Agreed. We truly are staring into a black hole.
But it’ll be worse, a whole lot worse, if we lose both those Georgia US Senate seats three weeks from today . . . . . . . .
. . . . or whenever it is the idiots finally finish the vote counting!!
It’s all so nuts.
It is all part and parcel of the dismemberment of America by the pandemic, which has been one of the noteworthy hatchet jobs of my lifetime. Consider the dimensions of this Chinese success:
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They saved themselves from another four years of Trump, whose policies and tariffs were giving them fits.
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They precipitated the election of a pro-China puppet who, quite literally, “owes them” for personal largess and, as well, massive favors to his son.
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They have disrupted American life to an extent heretofore believed impossible, causing immense distress among all of our citizens.
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They have killed some 300,000 Americans without firing a shot and without incurring expense for any military action whatsoever.
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They have caused to be installed into place in America a government far more in tune with their communist philosophy than was the leadership being replaced.
I could go on and on. This is truly epic success from a Chinese communist perspective. It approaches total victory over their most prominent and powerful global adversary. Whoever has the party supplies concession over in Beijing has to be doing a land office business these days.
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