Well hospitalization has still just about doubled in June (vs 2-4x for the cases)… Not sure how that’s considered “relatively flat”. But yeah, Oregon has a Democrat governor, so not as bad as some of the worst problem states where it 's tripled in only 2 weeks.
Yep, texas and many other states are in a significant testing capacity issue since cases have been allowed to start exploding. So what you point out for Oregon is not similar in all other states.
What you’re “supposed to expect” from the “re-opening” plan(s) is full contract tracing and a decrease in the positivity rate to a very low single digit percentage (due to all contacts being tested so that some of the new cases can be prevented from spreading it before they develop symptoms).
It means there’s more Democrat and Independent voters. Which are willing to inconvenience themselves by wearing masks and social distancing to protect others, and are much more willing to listen to scientists and health officials…
Plus the state’s policies are likely more sensical (but I have not researched Oregon’s specific policies), since the governor doesn’t have to grovel at the altar of Trump or be attacked as much on twitter and receive (a higher number than usual) of death threats after the twitter attacks.
It didn’t confuse them. I didn’t see where they expose the ICU data trends. So I was only pointing out the total hospitalizations and the shrinking available hospital beds (not just ICU).
Nope. WE are not doing anything special. Our social distancing rates are nearly exactly equal to the USA average. We’re worse than Nevada and slightly better than Utah.
Thats not why OR is doing as well as we are. Its luck and circumstance.
However the states with the most social distancing ARE pretty overwhelmingly Dem areas.
OR may be Dem controlled and mostly blue but OR is not NY or Mass in attitudes. We’re also not 80% hipster SJW’s and antifa like ‘the media’ might depict. We’re a lot closer to 50/50 in the votes than not.
At a minimum, Oregon has mask laws. Several counties previously, statewide now.
TX (example comparison) suggests masks and forbids local areas from implementing penalties for not following local requirements.
TX governor only recently clarified that local areas can add and try to enforce some limited restrictions to businesses. Still none on individuals.
Agreed, maybe the earlier spike in Oregon has resulted in a little better compliance too (just speculating). And as seen on the chart you posted, hospitalizations and cases aren’t exactly decreasing right now in Oregon either. It just appears to be not doing as poorly as some states are right now.
Liberals are rooting with everything they have against the efficacy of HCQS solely because the drug’s failure would reflect poorly on President Trump, whom they loathe. Liberals have no problem with other, vastly more costly, drugs because after all the government they so worship will be picking up the tab.
Then why all the claims that it’s repeatedly been proven to be ineffective, when all the cited trials have been with patients already sick enough to require hospitalization? All along the hypothesis was regarding it’s preventative benefits to minimize the severity of the infection, if not ward it off entirely. Once someone is hospitalized, you’ve already missed the boat on preventing them from needing hospitalization.