Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

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Does anyone read? Same story now posted TWICE after it had already been posted. Once was the same article being reposted.

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I’d start pouring mutation points into lethality at this point…

Oh wait, I thought that was a chart from a Plague, Inc. game… nevermind.

Unbelievable info!! You’ve got nothing more to write. Bad news boys… :face_with_thermometer:

Urgent tapioca update

If you’re a tapioca pudding fan, and who isn’t, be on notice the pandemic could be having an impact on supply.

Prices in some places already have skyrocketed. But if you’re fortunate you might still be able to find tapioca at (close to) the old price. If so, stock up. Given how things are unfolding with the pandemic there is no way to know when tapioca supply might return to normal.

I think we’re doing really well if tapioca is what warrants an urgent update… :wink:

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It’s looks like the Trump administration was deliberately trying to screw things up, which they did successfully if that was their goal.

Trump appointees aggressively lobbied against giving states COVID-19 vaccine rollout funds

“As states were formulating plans to vaccinate their residents against COVID-19 last fall, top Trump administration officials pushed Congress to deny the state governments any extra funding for the vaccine rollout, Stat News reported Sunday. The officials, including Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and White House Office of Management and Budget chief Russ Vought, disregarded “frantic warnings from state officials that they didn’t have the money they needed to ramp up a massive vaccination operation,” focusing instead on $200 million the states had not yet spent, Stat reports.”

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AZN not exactly forth coming with their dosing screwup. Good thing it seems to have worked out, but not inspiring confidence.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-oxford-exc/exclusive-oxford-kept-covid-19-vaccine-trial-volunteers-in-dark-about-dosing-error-letter-shows-idUSKBN2A1263

“As a letter purporting to explain a) an error and b) a change of protocol I find this entirely inadequate,” said Simon Woods, a professor of bioethics at Newcastle University, in an email. “It reads like a routine update (and a complex one at that).”

Emma Cave, a professor of healthcare law at Durham University’s law school, said: “Presenting the dosing variation as a planned change in the study is potentially a breach of trust if in fact the dosing resulted from an error. The letter makes clear the dosing change but not the reason for the change.”

A general comment on variants having been reading various research experts discussing this (rather than the press, which has to keep up the Fear message to get people to behave regardless of the facts), that these may not be as bad as they seem, especially the UK one.

First, the UK one not that different and the vaccines seem to work nearly as well at preventing all cases and just as well at preventing all serious cases. Also, the neutralizing antibody tests they do with blood samples, which show not quite as good results as vs Wuhan classic, are just one part of the whole of the immune response and ignore how T cells can help a lot. But T cells are a pain to test and run experiments with so we don’t get that data.

Second, the UK strain was found in the US as far back as Nov and the levels observed now in the US is still very low, 1% or something. Now we don’t have as good genomic surveillance as the UK, but it’s good enough that if this became half of all cases in the 3 months since Nov, the way it did in the UK from Sept to Nov there, we’d notice. So perhaps for whatever reason it spreads better in the UK climate or maybe it just got lucky and hit a bunch of superspreader events there or something. Something has to be the dominant strain after all.

Lastly, the stats on how it causes more symptoms and worse outcomes, while possible, are just guesses at this point and without statistical significance. Yes, it might be 25% worse or something. Boris’s cautionary comments may need to be taken in light of their difficult hospital situation and may be more directed at furthering public lockdown compliance than relaying hard scientific proof.

The SA version is more different and we have less data, but it may not be quite as bad as the press fears.

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Note how it says “deny extra funding”. Not “deny funding”. Big difference. Huge difference.

Please explain why is it so terrible that they were expecting the money already allocated to be used, before handing over even more? That seems more like common sense to me. This story is little more than reporting bitterness over states not getting more money to pad their shady slush funds.

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She seems to drinking a lot of her own koolaid/ fluids too.

I wouldn’t want to be these guys. Selling fakes to the foreigners is standard operating procedure, but getting caught making the country look bad can be a capital offense.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/china-arrests-suspects-fake-covid-19-vaccine-ring-75629339

Canada isn’t getting their vaccines very soon because, among other things, they have no domestic production of vaccines at all and when things matter for national security, it’s a lot better not to be relying on others. They’re starting that now with this NVAX deal, but it will take a while. Meanwhile they’re getting hit by delays from the ones they already ordered.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-02/trudeau-signs-deal-to-make-novavax-covid-19-vaccine-in-canada
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The EU won’t be getting enough vaccines til the end of the year, due to really bad bureaucratic moves.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-europe-tripped-in-covid-19-vaccine-race-11612293218
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Under fire, the EU has imposed a potential export ban on vaccines while opposition politicians across the bloc are talking of nationalizing manufacturers.

Yet many of the European Union’s difficulties seem to be self-inflicted, according to dozens of health experts, pharmaceutical executives and EU and national-government officials familiar with the negotiations.

While other governments were wooing vaccine makers with subsidies and immunity from liability in case of side effects, the EU focused on pushing prices down and slowing negotiations, which resulted in late orders. It also spread its purchases widely to reduce risk, signing deals with companies that are still months away from approved shots. And it was slow to authorize the vaccines it had purchased.

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Will COVID-19 cause postponement of the Super Bowl?

Did KC barber cut Sunday’s big game short?

Sometimes people do stuff beyond belief. This is nuts.

And the incubation time between today and Sunday evening is almost perfect.

Oh. So much for the insistence that we are last in line, I guess.

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Did they check Saudi Arabia to see if Jared sold them from out of the warehouse?

Who said we’re last in line? We’re just behind the rich countries, which is disappointing. (EU is not “rich countries”, and being a member drags down the members who are for things like this).

And we’re middle of the pack or lowest quintile in both overall casualties and economic losses, despite starting 2016 as best able to handle a pandemic.

Newsmax, why don’t you “interview” this conspiracy theorist??

Russia, if you’re listening, it would be great if you would obtain Jared’s “lost” emails. Even if the underage pictures in them would be illegal to publish and you instead leak them to the authorities…

What is it about "Jared"s? You’d think the rest would change their names after Subway.