That there was no evidence supporting at the time and more pressing matters (the pandemic, and needlessly killing 100ks of additional Americans and long term detrimental effects on additional millions) is not a debunked conspiracy theory, and hasn’t changed.
Baseless doesn’t mean impossible. It means that at present time there is no evidentiary basis for the claim.
Even the new investigations don’t really seem to align with those conspiracy claims… But who cares about details?
Right, like Daszak who lead a propaganda campaign in March 2020 saying it was definitely not from a lab. He wasn’t there and China wasn’t sharing anything, so how could he be 100% sure? you might wonder why he didn’t disclose his funding of and research work with the Wuhan lab, or the other scientists’ on his “definitely not from a lab” letter misgivings about the level of conviction expressed, but nope, Lancet rolled over and didn’t require any of that.
And he was chosen by Beijing to lead the WHO “investigation” that showed up a year later, didn’t get to ask any unapproved questions, and concluded that the WHO is a compete embarrassment and waste of money. Oh, sorry, the Chinese party got to edit it (precondition of the visit) and concluded it definitely wasn’t from their lab (“extremely unlikely”, despite not even bringing anyone to assess lab safety and related issues), and probly came from abroad into to China via frozen food!
You were referring to “mainstream media’s partisan reporting”. I don’t know or care about the specific person you’re now instead referencing.
US and allied intelligence made the determination that it was unlikely to be manmade, based on available information at the time.
That really has little to do as to whether a researcher may have been bitten by a bat while conducting research in a cave and then contracted a virus. Having no evidence supporting a claim is not the same as concluding there never could be any, anyways. That’s not how science or intelligence gathering works. It’s impossible to prove a negative. But that doesn’t mean it makes sense to pretend that any and every possibility is most likely, when they are not.
We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.
And they made that statement without going to China and without any evidence, except perhaps “we trust China” and we’ve seen how well thats gone for the whole pandemic. And it’s not like China didn’t have viruses leaking out of their virology labs many times in the past decade or two, including SARS1 at least 3-4 times we know about.
So it’s not even a hypothetical possibility - lab leaks in China due to shoddy safety techniques and working with dangerous viruses have actually happened many times. So tell me again why it’s impossible this time?
““We observed that during illness bats choose to stay away from the colony and don’t leave the cave,” said Prof. Yossi Yovel, head of neuroscience at Tel Aviv University. “This suggests that in order to encounter a sick bat, people must actually invade the bats’ natural environment or eliminate their habitats.””
It all makes sense. Ill bats, those under the weather, do not venture out or mix; not with other bats and not with us folks.
Hence clearly COVID-19 was conceived and synthesized in a lab and then spread, not by bats but instead, by careless humans who DO venture out and mix when infected.
Ya have to wonder whether the humans might have infected the poor bats!
When he first came on the scene, what, 3-4 years ago. Sounded promising, Trump was still in office and this man Durham was on the prowl. Months later, I was waiting to see & hear information. At first small drips were leaking out.
What happened?? Nothing, millions of $$'s, nothing produced. What’s Wrong here??
I wouldn’t be surprised if our government is still paying him.
Sick people isolate, regardless of their political persuasion. Non-sick (asymptomatic) people don’t, regardless of their political persuasion. The ones that don’t wear masks or wear them incorrectly and go to large indoor events end up becoming super spreaders. Sometimes those people are republicans and sometimes they are democrats. If only republican “covidiots” (your term) were the ones spreading COVID, the data would show that COVID hit deep red areas worse than deep blue areas. Since the data doesn’t show that, it is clear that you don’t have to be a Trump loving “covidiot” to be a super spreader. Human behavior is similar, even across the political spectrum. So blaming covid spread on certain people (that you don’t like because you disagree politically), at this point with the data we have, is quite dishonest. You should stop.
You must live and/or work in Asia, you don’t seem to be familiar with USA work “culture”.
In USA, employers encourage, require, or reward sick people for coming into work and spreading contagion. Whether that’s food service workers with diarrhea handling food or middle management or their favored lackeys coming into an office environment and giving everyone the flu and/or pneumonia.
Employees can be fired in China for taking sick leave without providing a sick leave certificate from a doctor. Paid sick leave is not a thing in Japan. The prevailing ideology in Japan is “if you can walk, you can work.”
In this survey, chinese employees are the most likely to go to work when sick and american employees are the 2nd least likely.
What are you talking about?
I’m sorry if you’ve only worked for slave drivers, but I’ve literally never heard from another person in the workforce that this was the case for them in the US.
Sick people masking up is more common in those other countries, they aren’t as cowardly afraid of it. I don’t work out live in any of them so I can’t speak from experience except in the US.
Being sick does not mean you’re in an ICU. A “minor” cough or sneeze (other than allergies) is usually a viral infection that can cause much more serious illness in coworkers (sinus infection, pneumonia, etc) if one simply spews their fluids in office and common areas.
The article you linked said 48% reported they are likely to go to work in USA with cold and flu symptoms. That’s an insanely high number. You’ve somehow “literally never heard from another person” about 50% of people?
