A less than charitable depiction of both our health agencies and the promiscuous lifestyle that’s spreading disease.
in New York City, none of its 336 victims so far have been women, in comparison to seven who are listed as “TGNCNB,” an acronym new to me that stands for “Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming Non-Binary.” Similarly, in Washington, D.C., which has the highest per-capita infection rate in the country, not one of the 122 patients is a woman.
the CDC wants to raise monkeypox awareness, but without the health authorities suggesting anything so unthinkable as that gays, say, knock it off with the group sex with strangers until we can figure out what’s going on with this monkeypox thing.
For instance, the CDC put together a template letter for gay men attending circuit parties, massage parlors, spas, saunas, and sex clubs. Did it tell them that they should cut out the orgies until further notice, the way school, church, and sports were canceled over Covid? Of course not. That would be homophobic. Instead, the CDC declared: We want you to have fun while you are at [insert event/venue]…
They suggested those vaccinated for smallpox have at least partial immunity, but monkeypox is so rare in the us I don’t think it’s been studied. I’ve had the smallpox shot and am a gay man, but I don’t really want to be the test case, lol. Sounds pretty awful, even if rarely fatal. I’m in SF for a few weeks right now so all of this is on my mind. They were doing a vaccine event at one of the gay saunas recently.
If history is any guide, the USG won’t start taking it seriously until heterosexual kids from the suburbs and/or celebrities start getting it.
Oh, and virtually all of those clubs and parties were closed during Covid, at least the semi-responsible big city saunas/sex clubs. There are none in Provincetown, but the bars there are smallish and poorly-ventilated. That was also during the brief honeymoon period where we all believed the vax kept one from getting Covid at all
It took less than two years to reach the needle sharing crowd. An acquaintance got it around '84 He was not gay, but was a shooter. I don’t think there was screening for blood donations/supplies then, which is why some people got it through transfusions. Hopefully, there will be no push back if they start screening the blood supply now.
So far sounds like it sucks but hasn’t been very serious, including in lots of people with HIV.
Overall, 98 percent of infected people were gay or bisexual men, 41 percent had HIV and the median age was 38. Their median number of sex partners in the prior three months was five, and around a third were known to have visited sex-on-site venues such as sex parties or saunas within the previous month.
Clinical outcomes in this case series were reassuring," the authors wrote. “Most cases were mild and self-limited, and there were no deaths. Although 13 percent of the persons were admitted to a hospital, no serious complications were reported in the majority of those admitted.”
Almost all of them were men who have sex with men, or who identify as gay and bisexual men. One reassuring finding, Orkin said, is that though monkeypox has been known to cause more serious symptoms in immunocompromised people, including those with HIV, their study did not see evidence of increased disease severity among monkeypox patients with HIV.
the study found the virus in 29 of 32 semen samples tested, it hasn’t been shown that the fluids are infectious.
That last part may suggest it is actually sexually transmitted, although they haven’t confirmed that yet.
Bureaucratic incompetence continues, but testing and vaccine supplies are almost online in size now, for example with nearly as many doses as the size of the US high risk population.
Health officials are not sure how fast the virus has spread. They have only limited information about people who have been diagnosed, and they don’t know how many infected people might be spreading it unknowingly.
They also don’t know how well vaccines and treatments are working. One impediment: Federal health officials do not have the authority to collect and connect data on who has been infected and who has been vaccinated.
Contact tracing was often stymied by infected men who said they did not know the names of all the people they had sex with… some local health officials have given up expecting much from contact tracing.
One of the covid heretics has a nice writeup on the WHO monkey pox “emergency” declaration. In short, this declaration is supposed to be made by vote of a panel of experts, but the panel wasn’t politically savvy enough to declare it for Tedros on the medical facts / merits, so he overrode them and declared it himself anyway.
In a move that is sure to trigger widespread discussion concerning the independence, objectivity and wisdom of granting authority to the WHO to manage global infectious diseases responses, the monkeypox outbreak has been declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) by the World Health Organization. The declaration was made unilaterally, in direct contradiction of independent review panel advice, by WHO director TedrosAdhanomGhebreyesus . Tedros made the declaration despite a lack of consensus among members of the WHO’s emergency committee on the monkeypox outbreak, and in so doing overruled his own review panel, who had voted 9 against, 6 for declaring the PHEIC.
And a few other takes
a sudden burst of coordinated social media postings raising concerns regarding Monkeypox risks to children, which raises the question “If Monkeypox is a sexually transmitted disease, why are kids getting it?”
Good question indeed. I wonder if the infected “kids” that the CDC recently mentioned will turn out to be, shall we say, a bit more precocious young men than they should have been for their own good?
These are the same IHR which the Biden administration sought to further strengthen, but the attempt to implement proposed modifications were placed on hold after an international, multi-country outcry concerning loss of national autonomy. The unilateral actions of Tedros in this current situation clearly demonstrate that these concerns were warranted.
Yes, we can see that WHO (as opposed to real professionals, “The Who”) are very “adaptable”. I suspect that progressivism was a dominant factor in the results of all “tests”, “surveys”, “results”, recommendations. Thus, there will no attempts to modify behavior, as in “social distancing”, or heaven forbid, contact tracing. HA!
We’re all just a bunch of animals that have no self control. Just put us in a pen and let us go until we need to … never mind.
Gay men are something like 5% of the population, and super-promiscuous ones a subset of that. One would think we could ramp up vaccine production and knock out this monkey pox pretty quickly.
30 million (2 shot course) would do it for the US.
I’m sure logistics and politics make it not so simple though.
As for the screening process to allocate, many providers are asking if you had sex with two or more partners in the last 14 days, or any anonymous ones. So, that could be a straight guy who does well on Tinder, or a guy who went to a gay sauna.
It’s sort of evoking a ptsd in the gay community, at least among those old enough to have lived through the AIDS epidemic. Fear of sex, anger at government, being judged or marginalized, etc.
Hard to put myself in those shoes maybe, but this time the risk is way lower and there’s a vaccine they might finally get around to giving out 3-6 months late. Still pretty good compared to dying of an unknown new virus.
That’s the subset that’s causing all the spread. Here’s one such example - don’t be this guy, don’t get the pox.
It’s quite possible that monkey pox with the public education at the level of “don’t touch people with pox sores” would be good enough to lower the transmission in the rest of the population to below replacement and this outbreak would die out like all the others.
The gay male education would be more like “get this vaccine if you’re not married / monogamous” together with “do you want to know how much it hurts if you get the pox on your penis / inside your ass? Here are some painful testimonials” for the at risk crowd.
Wait, I thought we were going with the Abortion emergency, or maybe the Climate emergency, to get out the vote. Apparently we’re moving back towards a Pox emergency.
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WEIGHS DECLARING MONKEYPOX A HEALTH EMERGENCY- WAPO
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ALSO PLANS TO NAME A NATIONAL MONKEYPOX COORDINATOR - WAPO
Maybe declaring an emergency will get the CDC and FDA to actually get moving? For those that missed it in the politics thread, I liked this one:
Some quick facts about Monkeypox that all of us should know and be prepared to educate others on:
• Monkeypox is much like a tamer version of smallpox and it is rarely fatal. It can last 2-4 weeks and is healed completely.
• We’ve had an outbreak before in 2003. During that outbreak, it was not more common in gay men.
• This strain of monkeypox has been around for years. It’s been circulating in central Africa.
• It is not at STI. It spreads from person to person through close personal contact. While this obviously includes sex, it also includes things like kissing or hugging closely.
• The reason it is more common in gay men during this outbreak is likely because a carrier became a super spreader at a rave or a big party in Europe, which then spread it to many other local gay communities. This is an unfortunate coincidence resulting in stigmatization of a community that does not deserve it. In fact, gay men are often one of the quickest groups to collectively spring to action in fighting infectious diseases.
• Because of this super spreader event, it is the duty of any agency that wishes to contain the spread of the disease to educate and inform communities that are most at risk. Gay men are not the cause of Monkeypox, they are a community with high risk of dealing with it. The smallest amount of human compassion would have you arrive at this understanding.
Leave it to the geniuses in New York City to address the REALLY IMPORTANT aspects of monkeypox:
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
Dr Vasan referenced the “painful and racist history within which terminology like (monkeypox) is rooted for communities of colour”.
He pointed to the fact that monkeypox did not actually originate in primates, as the name might suggest, and recalled the negative effects of misinformation during the early days of the HIV epidemic and the racism faced by Asian communities that was exacerbated by former president Donald Trump calling Covid-19 the “China virus”.
The now nearly obligatory swipe at Donald Trump, regardless context, is duly noted.
Government That Shut Down Businesses, Parks, Schools, Beaches, And Churches For 2 Years Says There’s Nothing We Can Do To Stop A Disease Spread By Gay Sex
The CDC officially moved “gay orgies” to the “essential” side of its guidelines for which activities you can still participate in during the spread of a virus, where it joined other activities like “going to dinner at the French Laundry” and “mostly peaceful riots.”
“While going to church, work, and school will be forbidden the next time there is a massive outbreak, gay orgies will always be protected activities,” said CDC Director Rochelle Walensky.
