Social credit in America - Politics invades personal finance

As far back as 2016, a sorority at Tufts University, Alpha Omicron Pi offered a membership to 19-year-old Harper Hopkins, a biological male; the sorority’s national office was reluctant to offer membership. Cosmopolitan Magazine ran the story, denouncing the sorority as “inherently transphobic.”

Someone should run the story of how Cosmopolitan Magazine is inherently anti-woman…

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This is one of his videos…

I read the linked story and could not find any denouncement or the words “inherently transphobic”, which appear quoted in the quote you provided, which usually implies a direct quote. Also the article only reports the events, without any opinions. How is this “inherently anti”-anything?

i’m not a big fan of Amazon but “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” I wonder what the woke leftists at Amazon think about this?

Amazon accuses FTC of harassing executives including Jeff Bezos and Andy Jassy

Amazon has accused the US Federal Trade Commission of harassing its top executives, including founder Jeff Bezos and chief executive Andy Jassy, as part of a probe into the ecommerce group’s Prime membership scheme. Since March 2021, the regulator has been investigating whether Amazon uses deceptive techniques to lure customers into signing up for Prime, the subscription service that offers free delivery and other benefits at a cost of $139 a year. The FTC is also examining whether Amazon unfairly complicates the process for customers who want to cancel their membership.

The filing accused the FTC of improperly denying at least one subpoenaed employee full access to Amazon’s legal team. It described one acrimonious investigative hearing that ended after just a “few minutes” after Amazon’s lawyer was asked to leave by FTC staff, prompting the testifying employee to follow.

Without addressing the issues with FTC’s investigation, we all know that Amazon uses (to this day!) deceptive techniques to lure customers into signing up for Prime and deceptive techniques to prevent cancellations.

When checking out without Prime, the default shipping method is $5.99 even for orders > $25 and the “ad” right above the shipping choices says: “Save $5.99 instantly | YourNameHere, we’re giving you a 30-day FREE Trial of Prime!” The “we’re giving you” sentence doesn’t actually mean they’re giving it to you, it means they’re only offering and you have to click some other buttons to accept. At least selecting the free shipping replaces the deceptive “save $5.99 instantly” with “special offer”.

And we all know that cancelling Prime is ridden with “dark pattern”-style dialogs that say you will lose all your prime benefits if you cancel, implying that you’ll lose them instantly, while in reality they will last until the originally promised date (30 days for free trial or the full month or year of a paid membership). There are multiple confirmation pages that display the cancel membership-equivalent button in different colors and different locations relative to the keep membership-equivalent button.

It has been going on for years and I have no sympathy for the people involved in keeping this scheme going.

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That entire paragraph is quoted directly (literally copied and pasted) from that linked article.

These days, “go to membership screen and press cancel” is considered unfairly complicated. :face_exhaling:

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Yes, and that article contained a lie that you assumed was true before asking the question you asked.

I’m guessing you’ve never tried to completely cancel a Prime membership. The first prompt you see when you try is only the first of multiple prompts.

I take advantage of the free one month trial as often as I can. I know with today’s educational standards it’s gotten hard for people to read their screens, and it’s du jour to consider something to be completed when you feel that you’ve completed it, but at no point does Amazon say your membership has been cancelled when there are still more steps you need to take.

It may be annoying, but it isn’t unfair or deceptive.

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Huh? There wasn’t a trans student at Tufts University who tried to join a sorority (yes, there was), and Cosmo didn’t denounce that rejection as being transphobic (what you are saying it the lie)? It’s pretty sad when a publication resorts to simply making up fake reference points, or at minimum overembellishing them.

But I never even asked a question…

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Part of the messaging is deceptive, because it makes it seem like you’ll lose your benefits instantly. Nowhere does it mention that the benefits will continue until the originally-agreed-to date. So when someone tries to cancel in advance of expiration, they may reconsider and wait until the last day. And if they forget on the last day, they may end up paying for renewal, and I don’t know if there’s pro-rated refund or what the process is after that. Point is the process is deceptive and unnecessarily complicated.

I can’t see the cosmo story right now because my work network blocks cosmo’s site. But when I skimmed it last night, I didn’t get the impression that the author was denouncing the sorority or calling the sorority “transphobic.” The story seemed like it focused more on the students that quit the sorority in protest of the national leadership saying the trans student couldn’t join. I don’t doubt that the sorority’s national leadership would likely be called explicitly transphobic by many if the incident just happened, but in 2016, transphobia accusations weren’t thrown around as willy nilly as they are now.

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The lie from dailywire where they quoted Cosmo: 'Cosmopolitan Magazine ran the story, denouncing the sorority as “inherently transphobic.” ’ There’s no denouncing of the sorority as “inherently transphobic” in the linked article.

Apologies, you made the following statement:

Which makes no sense, since the Magazine only stated the facts without any opinions or slant, and there’s nothing “inherently anti”-anything in that.

Better like this

Or like this

When I was a little girl, I loved Nerf guns and BMX bikes and wearing boyish clothes. As I grew up I became more feminine and now I’m married with 3 beautiful kids," said Bamkins. “If I had grown up today, they would’ve chopped me up, drugged me, put me in a GSA club, and tried to turn me into a boy! Bullet dodged!”

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The Babylon Bee’s take on the Beach Boys California Girls. Brilliant

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How does it do that … deceptively? I cancelled Prime the first year that I couldn’t get it for $49. I regularly (annually) take advantage of one month of free prime. Occasionally, I’m offered an additional free month when I cancel. I do not find Amazon to be deceitful when trying to cancel.

How does it make it seem like you’ll lose benefits instantly?

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That’s what happened last time I tried to cancel, probably less than a year ago. I knew my renewal date was coming up, so I tried to cancel a few weeks in advance. The words on the page made it seem like I would lose the benefits as soon as I cancelled. I had to google it to figure out that it won’t actually cancel my current membership, only cancel the next renewal.

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So you were easily able to figure it out, and you weren’t deceived, at all. So why do you think it is deceptive?

I was deceived – I thought my benefits would end immediately. But I already knew this tactic, because it has been discussed in tech circles many times. I had to go off-site to confirm what I already knew, just in case something changed or I was mistaken. Someone who didn’t know about this tactic would be fooled into not cancelling until the very last day of their membership. And some, if not most of the people would forget to cancel on the very last day and would be charged for renewal. My guess is FTC has evidence / proof of this happening to customers.

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