Puberty blockers do not cause damage and they are not irreversible. Stop them, puberty happens normally. As I said, the false claims need to stop. The right is going bonkers about this as a way of isolating themselves from the left.
There’s nothing normal about going through puberty in your late teens/twenties. If it was safe and remotely “normal”, puberty blockers would be a normal treatment for all kids, to delay physical development until the child was better emotionally capable of handling all the changes. It’s not, it’s a mad scientist experiment with nothing normal or natural about it.
Might as well stitch feathered wings on a kid, and let them insist they’re now an eagle and thus entitled to the same protections as endangered species. It makes just as much sense (as in, it makes zero sense whatsoever).
That means there is some support, which means the claims aren’t false.
Finally, what’s wrong with puberty? It’s a rite that all children go through as they become adults … which, coincidentally, is when they are supposedly smart enough to make MOMENTOUS decisions such as becoming another sex, or taking out humongous student loans …
Oh, uh, well, if they’re not smart enough to take out loans, are they really smart enough to know that Ken switching to Barbie is not an easy thing to do or undo. It’s a lot harder than paying back a loan that you rightfully owe.
You are straight up lying. You are the one making false claims.
There are no studies whatsoever that puberty blockers don’t cause damage when used off label for gender “affirming” care. There is lots of evidence that they can and do cause damage.
The studies that say that when kids go off puberty blockers, they experience puberty normally, are studies that were done on kids for the ON LABEL use of puberty blockers for kids with precocious puberty (i.e. giving the blockers to a kid that is 8 and then taking the kid off at 11). There is no study that says puberty will happen normally but just be delayed when giving blockers to a kid that is just about to start it at a normal age (11-12) and then taking them off it after the age where they should have had puberty for several years (16). Additionally, since almost zero kids come off puberty blockers without moving on to cross-sex hormones, there is no scientific basis for the claim that using puberty blockers for gender “affirming” care is reversible. Please stop coming on her and lying to us like we don’t know what we are talking about.
Lying again. There is support across the political spectrum for stopping to re-evaluate how kids with gender dysphoria are being treated by medical and mental health professionals right now. The easiest proof of that is to look at the UK which doesn’t have a conservative right in the same way the USA does, yet it is pumping the brakes on how gender dysphoric kids are being treated by their national health service. In the USA, there are also tons of people that would walk across broken glass to vote against Donald Trump that also oppose the current “guidance” from transgender activists on how to treat gender dysphoric kids.
Puberty blockers do not cause damage and they are not irreversible. Stop them, puberty happens normally.
I am extremely skeptical.
You are talking about a very complex mechanism in the body of multiple hormones interacting with each other.
You can’t just turn it back on (by stopping suppressive-treatment) and expect it to work to the same exact outcome it would have if it had run its course in the first place.
You have made a permanent change to a person’s development, on multiple fronts.
Of course there isn’t–drug companies almost never do such testing for off-label uses, it’s very expensive and all it gets them is the ability to put the use on the label. Thus almost all off-label use is not tested as safe. Take one example that I am unfortunately personally familiar with–the standard drug for dealing with passable kidney stones is off-label use. And, yes, that means they give women a drug whose approved use is impossible in a woman.
And you say “cause damage”–neglecting the fact that the alternative isn’t perfect, either. Doing nothing leads to suicides–is that not damage?
It doesn’t matter that most of them go to hormones later in life–some come off them, they go back to normal. I’m not lying about the situation, the right wing media is lying to you and you’ve fallen for it. It’s all about making the sheep discount anything without the QOP stamp of approval.
I’m not sure where you really stand in this, because the crux of the argument we are rejecting is that such “male”-specific medical issues are possible in a woman.
If you acknowledge that a male medical issue is not possible in a woman, you are effectively acknowleding that the whole notion of “gender affirming care” is a farce. No matter how much a male may want to be female, they will always be bound by the biological facts of a male.
You are wanting to give life-altering medication not to treat a condition, but to indulge a condition. Not to be too blunt, but it’s like treating pedophilia by leaving a 8 year old at the pedophile’s front door every couple days. Because, ya’ know, if that pedophile doesnt get what he wants he might commit suicide too.
But these people are usually full of plenty of mental disorders, depression, etc, along with their purported gender confusion, and many of them commit suicide afterwards too.
Where’s the randomized trial that shows reduced relative hazard on this population from this hormone and/or surgery treatment? I thought the study people kept citing was a single clinic where they did a few follow ups with ex-clients, all of whom that responded to their study hadn’t killed themselves.
If it were just other mental disorders there would be no relationship between being trans and suicide. There is, however.
As I just said, there’s no incentive for the drug companies to fund such a study. Nor is it even possible to do properly because it’s impossible to blind. The lack of such research doesn’t prove it false, just like the lack of research on the effectiveness of the drug I was given for kidney stones doesn’t prove it doesn’t work. It’s the standard of care despite the lack of the study you want to see.
Ok, so “there’s no evidence it helps”, got it. And it’s no longer “standard of care” in the Uk and other places where it’s been banned for non-adults.
So they’re mentally ill and vulnerable to people who want to abuse their authority to further larger political ends, I get that. Whether it helps or not doesn’t matter - they’ll just be traitors / transphobes if they admit to regretting it later and can be censored / deplatformed / hated on.
So quit calling it safe then. Also note that no gender clinics have bothered to publish their own studies to back up your claims yet. You are actually behind the times on this stuff. Two years ago the claim was that puberty blockers were safe and reversible. The doctors in the field don’t even claim that anymore. In fact, they are admitting that it essentially exterminates all sexual functions: https://twitter.com/donovancleckley/status/1521625518394773505
There is no evidence that doing something prevents suicides.
If you’d ever bothered to read a single detransitioner describe their experience, you would know how absolutely ludicrous this statement is. It’s based on something you have completely made up in your mind that was bandied about several years ago. Transactivists don’t even bother making this claim anymore.
There are tons of people in the media that aren’t on the right wing, here and in Britain, that have written and spoken about everything I have posted regarding this topic. You refuse to acknowledge that because it wrecks your worldview that only a right winger could be against transing kids. Such binary thinking from someone so committed to destroying the sex binary.
Dude! or Dudette! or Zebra! or (insert gender, species, ghost of choice)! Is that really where you want to plant your flag (or other non-gender-species-specific item)?
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That’s a very hateful, prejudicial thing to say. It bounds on hate speech. An apology and $50 will make it go away.
You’re so obsessed with objecting to the objections, that you are encouraging turning healthy young people into Frankenstein’s monsters. The most basic fundamental principle of medicine is “do no harm”, not “mutilate to indulge a fantasy”. “Gender affirmation treatments” belong in the same category as Brazilian butt lifts on the list of essential medical procedures. Gender dysphoria is no different than body dysmorphic disorder as mental conditions go, and absolutely no one is advocating we allow teens to chop off their foot because they’re convinced their pinky toe is particularly ugly looking. If there is any medicinal treatment to be called for, it is medication that helps the person to be comfortable in the body they have, not actively feed their dillusions with the illusion of a faux “new” body.
“First, do no harm” is not a meaningful medical principle–in practice most everything a doctor does causes harm. The question is whether it causes more good than bad.