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I don’t argue this. But I will argue that a lobotomy goes quite further than “unnecessary and unjustified,” to say the least.

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Obviously a lobotomy is an extreme comparison – but the point is that these are all medical procedures that should be viewed as barbaric and generally unacceptable in our society, versus being done on a frequent basis with very little thought as to their necessity or efficacy.

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Sorry, I can’t join you in the crusade that circumcising a baby is in the same category as a performing a phalloplasty on a teen or young adult suffering from gender dysphoria.

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You just haven’t read the right abnormal psych textbook that had the case-study of a forced gender reassignment after a botched circumcision led to a penectomy… :stuck_out_tongue:

OK fine, if you put it on a scale, it’s less barbaric, but it’s still barbaric.

Really? Exceedingly brutal? Are you a “victim”, and do you really feel brutalized by this? I know I do not, brutal and barbaric are not words I’d feel inclined to associate with it. Unnecessary? Of course. Does it make you cringe to think about? Sure. But barbaric? There’s still lots of medical evidence indicating potential benefits from the procedure, even if there is no harm from not doing it.

I’d equate circumcision closer to clipping an overgrown finger nail, than it is to shoving an ice pick into your brain through your eyelid. It’s a cosmetic procedure, and the only tangible effect is cosmetic. Barbaric is probably one of the last words I’d think of to describe it.

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It’s a cosmetic procedure, and the only tangible effect is cosmetic.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess, in terms of how much that particular nerve-dense tissue matters, beyond cosmetics.

I certainly don’t feel like a victim, myself, but I wouldn’t do it to my kids.

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Most of them are done in infancy. I hear it’s extremely painful for the infant. Those who had it done certainly don’t remember it, but they also don’t know what they’re missing. It is barbaric, because it brings great pain to an infant without a good reason. But we certainly don’t have to agree, and I mentioned that I could only hope that it’s viewed this way in the future.

Been talking to a bunch of 5-day-olds around the water cooler, have you? :wink:

I think there’s something to be said about the first-hand experiences of adults who have it done, and they are not permanently traumatized. That’s where the study conclusions of “not really missing anything” come from.

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Or limiting glue sales due to sniffers.

Thanks for, again, opening my eyes to modern lingo and idiocy. I will now shut them again. :smile:

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Are you calling religious reasons unjustified, or is that the part that’s outside “almost universally”?

I’ve attended quite a few religious circumcisions for baby boys. My sons cried no more during the circumcision than they did when getting vaccinations. You never want to hurt your children, but some pain is necessary. I don’t know of anyone who remembers their circumcision … unless some duck has them dreaming up repressed memories.

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Are you saying that you were circumcised and have had tissue added, and that it feels better to you? If so, that may be psychological.

I didn’t intend to turn this comment section into a sex-ed class, but evidently

  1. there is a band of nerve endings in the tissue that is removed for a circumcision
  2. with life-long foreskin coverage, your glans maintains the property of being a mucous membrane, rather than drying out

Between those two… supposedly… the sensation is pretty different from what a circumcised person feels.

Hence the “ignorance is bliss” comment – no way for those of us that were snipped to ever know the difference.

But with that in mind – along with seeing way too many people who are unhappy with how theirs was done, in terms of things like being trimmed “too tight” to where the skin can’t move freely – I think it is unethical to do it to this generation of children.

Regarding the religious comment – It isn’t part of Christianity, at all, despite misunderstandings that some have to the contrary. But for the Jewish and Muslim communities – it would be more ethical and humane to let guys decide to do it later – though that said, from what I understand the “style” of circumcision associated with at least Judaism is a less significant “trim” than what was popularized by Kellog in the USA.

Certainly a complex topic that gets into deeply held beliefs – but it doesn’t change that the VAST majority of circumcisions performed in the USA are done so under a misunderstanding of “why” they would do so in the first place.

Gun Makers Abandoning Anti-Second Amendment States

America’s gun manufacturers are not sticking around where they are not wanted. Many of those manufacturers, who have been headquartered in the blue states of the northeast since the founding of the country, are picking up stakes, and moving to more gun-friendly red states.

The latest of those to join the exodus from blue state America is Smith & Wesson, which is moving its headquarters fromMassachusetts to Tennessee next year.

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Back to the trans wars. Blame it on the women.

The most obvious example is education. American schools teach less and indoctrinate more than ever before. Big-city public (and most private) schools are damaging young Americans to an extent and in ways no one imagined just a few years ago. Young children are prematurely sexualized – they are, for example, exposed to “Drag Queen Story Hour” in class and in local libraries from the age of 5. These feature a man dressed as a woman reading and dancing for them.

And who is facilitating all of this? In virtually every case, a woman. Ninety-two percent of kindergarten teachers are women, 75% of all teachers are women and 85% of librarians are women.

These ideas originated in university gender studies and women’s studies departments, nearly all of whose professors are female.

Women physicians and health care workers are at the vanguard of ruining young people’s lives at children’s hospitals that push giving young people puberty-blocking hormones and opposite-gender hormones, performing hysterectomies and mastectomies on healthy girls who say they are boys, and chemically or physically castrating healthy boys who say they are girls.

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This sounds like it could be written by a Taliban wannabe.

If those on the left like you did not have ad-hominem arguments, you would have no arguments at all

So sad for you to write this nonsense. If you read my posts, you’ll see I’m not from the left. I’m an independent and that is why I do criticize people from both sides of the spectrum. BTW, what exactly of anything I wrote in there do you consider to be ad-hominem? The insinuation in the article is that somehow women are to blame for the letter soup trend.

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YouTube has quietly removed any references to masks from its COVID misinformation policy. I wonder if they will go back and reinstate all those videos they took down where people questioned the efficacy of masks.

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Your only argument is to compare the author to muslim fundamentalist extremists. You do not address at all the points in the article. Do you deny any of them? for example the dominance of women in education and children’s physicians pushing the transgender agenda?

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