The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

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‘You’re not wanted’: Trump’s proposed college student visa changes worry international students — again

This week, President Donald Trump’s administration unveiled proposed rule changes that would dramatically alter student visas, leaving the international student community reeling just a few weeks into the 2020-21 academic year. The proposed changes — which are detailed in a 256-page document online and have already drawn hundreds of public comments — could devastate science research and tech innovation nationwide, experts warn.

International students make up roughly 5% of students at American universities and colleges, and their economic impact alone is staggering. According to NAFSA, the association of international educators, 1 million international students contributed $41 billion to the U.S. economy in the 2018-19 academic year.

Most international students pay full, out-of-state tuition costs, a boon to universities and one that allows them to keep costs lower for domestic students. And the money they spend on rent and at local restaurants is especially important in Midwest college towns that have been hit hard by recessions, said Gaurav Khanna, an economist at the University of California, San Diego. Then there’s the academic concerns.

“This wouldn’t just affect the university sector,” Khanna said. “While international students are here, they do critical research, but then after they graduate, a lot of them join the science and tech sector, where a lot of innovation happens.”

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That’s ok. Opinions are just entertainment and shouldnt be taken seriously.

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Where in any of that does it say “you’re not wanted”? If you are choosing to attend school in a foreign country, I’d think it would be understood that dealing with paperwork will be a factor your entire time there.

And god forbid you be expected to earn your 4 year degree in…gasp!..4 years. So terribly, terribly unfair.

Although it is rather funny how one of the primary arguments centers on the money, how full-price international students quasi-subsidize the domestic students. A distinctly anti-Democrat priority, but perhaps the most valid point that was made - “who cares, they’re paying a lot of money”.

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Don’t worry, the “imaginary” scenario they describe isn’t going to happen. Even with the black panthers at polling locations, Trump is going to handily keep Comrade Biden from falling hard, and let him down gently. He’s too honorable to let an old man fall hard.

Define insane.:slight_smile:

I think there are a lot of them, but right off the top of my head I can think of two - Maxine Watters and whoever the Democrat rep was who called Jewish settlers termites. Neither get tons of press for their insane views, but that doesn’t mean their sane.

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They have scientific evidence that is absolutely undeniable and certifiable. Can’t imagine what that is? I mean, it’s undeniable, but remember these are Democrats who can make connections that no one else sees. Figured it out yet?
Mouse over and click to reveal the undeniable fact-checked proof - President Trump has been seen eating spaghetti.

Furthermore, these self-titled election experts warn that Trump has called on witch doctors to put Mussolini back together (yeah, another “obscure” reference for those who slept thru history, or took history after ~1995). He intends to replace Mike Pence with Mussolini after the election.

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Sorry, I’m still not finished laughing.

Two phrases were omitted from that headline. The entire headline is: Democratic election sweep, while the dream of big media, would add, or save, 7 million jobs.

This is remarkably similar to the phrase former President Barack Hussein Obama used to describe how great his economic plan was working.

He said that weeks before explaining to the American people that America’s days of being the manufacturing leader were behind her, and that his “blazing” .004% economic growth rate was the new normal.

Of course, as we struggled to get accustomed to our declining stature in the world, he and Joseph Biden were the perfect hands at the tiller to manage that decline.

Thus, if we want to go back to the "roaring economy of Biden-Obama, vote for Comrade Joe. :slight_smile:

ETA: Former President Obama, when asked to comment on Candidate Trump’s promise to bring manufacturing jobs back to America, called on Kamala Harris’ Indian-Jamaican slave owning roots and asked if Trump ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶g̶o̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶v̶o̶o̶d̶o̶o̶ had a magic wand.

And finally, a couple of years into President Trump’s administration, several big puffy Democrats were saying that Trump didn’t build that. It was the golden one’s policies who got us roaring. In fact, I think someone here may have tried to pass that off as non-fiction at some time.

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Why bother?

I can only imagine the headlines and narrative if Trump had made such a comment…

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https://www.vaildaily.com/news/colorado/federal-judge-removes-blm-director-for-serving-unlawfully/

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The GOP-led Senate typically is falling short of the votes needed from its ranks to confirm some of Trump’s choices. But as Trump bypassed the chamber, chipping away at its advise-and-consent role, the Republican leadership has also allowed the acting positions to stand.

I dont understand (seriously, not sarcastically). What happens when a nominee is not confirmed? Wouldnt the ‘acting’ person remain acting until another nominee can be voted on? So what does the White House lose by putting up nominees knowing the Senate wont have the votes to confirm them, so that the person “temporarily” running things can continue running things?

I dont know why what’s happened is unlawful or not (I have no reason to doubt the judge’s decision), but it seems like something that could easily be circumvented and made perfectly legal.

Is it fair for the Democrats to continuously vote down (or threaten to vote down) nominees, then complain that the position hasnt been filled? It’s kind of close but not really quite to this point yet, but when does the blame shift from Trump for not nominating, to the Senate for not confirming?

I know it goes both ways (I seem to recall issues with some Obama nominees, too), but more and more the confirmation process has become less and less about qualifications and more about political agendas.

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Uh, wouldn’t that be “Hundreds of ex-swampers”, all with their palm up as they made their “endorsement”?

==============scriptaid===============

Since this is such a long article, I consider my duty to give two responses, both equally valid. This notice is so that you don’t think I’m suffering from Biden Syndrome (the acronym of which, I used to think frequently when reading the argbot’s posts.

Argyll speaks for the world. Now you’re getting it. Just keep repeating

“I’m good enough”
“I’m smart enough”
“and Doggone it,”
“people like me”

This will be an especially important mantra for you and many others for the next 8 years. I suspect their will be a huge market for healers, but not the blue kind, (sorry for the “obscure to scrpta” canine reference) and other people who deal with mental troubles. No, I’m not saying, out loud, that this applies to you.

==scriptaid: 2nd response to same message follows==

Most of the world has been jealous of the U.S.A. for as long as I can remember. FYI, that’s significantly longer than Comrade Joe’s memory goes. Living outside of this country for two decades taught me that. And not all were axis of evil countries. Most were our allies.

This isn’t a complaint about the jealousy, as it is very understandable. However, it gives a little background as to possible motivation, and the norms for these types of articles.

There were hundreds of them, daily, before the bots and payoffs started. Those type stories helped to focus frustration at someone other than the local government, hospital system, postal system, etc. Additionally, when the only “American news” they see is BM (Big Media, or something equivalent), what else are they to conclude?

==scriptaid: 3rd response to same message follows==

Just thought of a third response that is also on point, if I must say so. :grin:

Yes, they are baffled. The most recent bafflement?

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How can this man, President Donald John Trump, bring peace to the Middle East in 3 years, when many countries and every other president (except former President Obama) has been trying to do it for 50 years? Of course they are baffled.

Oh wait, they’re only listening to Democrat controlled BM, so they don’t know about it, or they only know that it’s a bad thing.

====scriptaid====

And we won’t. (cue Twisted Sister) We will sit. Are you now against peaceful protest? What if the President puts on some makeup and changes his slogan to BTM? :smile:

====scriptaid====

I prefer to ask before accusing, but in this case, your message is pretty clear.

You are saying that you want foreign students to take the seats of poor black students? BSM!!! Baby! Do you want Portland to keep burning? Keep this up and President Trump can quit campaigning and coast, even though that is not in his nature

=====scriptaid=====

How dare you take acronym of the cause of the day in vain. Have you no shame? :grin:

On the serious side, didn’t our former fearless leader and basketball player
make hundreds of recess appointments of natural born lunatics who could never get confirmed?

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I tried your suggestion, but am unsure if the result is as you intended. The three dashes just seems to increase the font of the paragraph preceding it. If you are visually impaired, that may be a help, but please confirm. It just seems kind of garish to me.

In case you missed it, although I don’t see how, in the message immediately above, here is an example:

====Honk! Honk! Vee up and head south====

Just a public safety notice for hunters and retrievers.

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White Supremacist Richard Spencer Endorses Joe Biden for President

Doesn’t Comrade Joe look presidential, or did they take the picture just as he was starting to fall? And don’t look at the pic on the website. It looks like he’s practicing for the next Joker movie.

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In many cases, the law strictly defines who takes over the acting roll, and it’s not an unconfirmed appointee.

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Off ed… It’s such a sight to watch those honkers head south. Watch them every year.

My sons high school rallied around “The HONKERS”. Beautiful rice field country! :relaxed:

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Finally!

I believe I’ve heard her reject nearly the exact same reasoning, when calling out certain others for making divisive, disrespectful characterizations…

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Debate will be a joke as usual. Moderators don’t fact check or follow up questions. Trump will just say nonsense as usual.

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No income taxes at all in 10 of 15 years prior to Presidency. $750 in 2016 and 2017. Way to support our troops.

Massive chronic business losses. To a guy who feels winning and losing is more important than right and wrong, it’s no wonder he didn’t want the world to see what a loser he is.

To those who think he still must be a great businessman because he deals with many millions of dollars, he inherited many millions of dollars. His Dad gave him millions of dollars and an entire real estate empire while he was alive and Trump reportedly inherited another hundred million or so when his father died. To the IRS, he consistently claims he’s worth nothing.

Compared to other wealthy business leaders, he probably has the record for most failures, losses, bankruptcies, etc.

Does it seem right that probably everyone on this site paid far more in income taxes than this man who claims to be a very successful billionaire businessman and patriot?

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All of the information The Times obtained was provided by sources with legal access to it.

And yet they won’t release the evidence. Assuming they do have his returns, I guess the NYT found someone at the IRS or one of Trump’s tax accounting firms to leak most of his tax returns. If it someone at the IRS, it was a felony as it is against the law to release any taxpayer return without permission. If it was tax lawyer or accountant who stole it from their firm, the NYT can’t release them because it would be profiting from the stolen materials, possibly including various crimes involved in paying that someone to steal it for them in the first place.

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And this is why releasing his tax returns has been such an issue. The kneejerk reactions from looking at a business/real estate return with the same standards that you look at a personal return.

This is the type of BS comment I knew would come from his tax returns.

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