Don’t know whether Mattis is a never Trumper, but he’s a republican for sure.
Well yeah. He was once of the most competent (relatively) appointees in the Trump administration. That’s why he chose to resign, the other option would have been directly violating the oath of office.
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Yeah, it’s antifa! Oh wait…
Maybe not (maybe there’s multiple opportunist groups taking advantage of the situation
Actual arrests of course don’t matter. There was a WH press release. That’s fact.
Then again, antifa is not a Democrat group anyways… What interest do you think it has in electing Biden? Fringe groups on both sides would seem to benefit the most from the current divisiveness, disorganization, and incompetence.
Yes Mattis is significant. He had hinted shortly after his resignation that right then was not the time to comment on policy differences but that his silence would not be forever. I guess the call to invoke insurrection act powers may have moved him over the edge of where he felt he had to break his silence. But it’s not really a new stance. It was clear that he resigned because he disagreed with the administration policies before. And Trump’s reaction to move up his final service date (aka you cannot resign, I’ll fire you first) didn’t do much to smooth things out between them I’d imagine.
But elsewhere, from other Republicans - especially those in office - there’s a lot of non-commitment. If you look at Lisa Murkowski’s answers about Mattis’ interview, it looks like a prime example of dodging the question. She won’t say she does not support Trump, just struggling with it but she applauds Mattis for his statement sharply criticizing him. Not exactly breaking ranks to me. More like covering all your bases at once.
For anyone unaware, the battle here is not between Republicans and Democrats.
The battle is between Trump and his valiant and freedom-loving supporters, like myself, and a well ingrained, self-serving, self-important, deep state.
So are there Republican members of the deep state? You bet your sweet ass there are!! 
You can’t love freedom and totalitarianism at the same time, they are antithetical.
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No clue. Do not see it your way.
This sort of “great divide” is the basis for the (so far cold) civil war mentioned in the title of this thread.
But things are heating up.
You claim to love freedom. But there’s no freedom without freedom of speech, expression, assembly. The mostly peaceful protests are expressions of these Constitutional freedoms.
Threatening to use the military and then actually using the military against non-violent protests is a threat to our fundamental freedoms. It is totalitarian. That’s what the letters from the military leaders are all about – they disagree with the use of military against protests.
You can’t love freedom and totalitarianism at the same time, because they are incompatible. Trump is a totalitarian (there have been many examples of this during his presidency). He does not care about the Constitution. And he only pretends to love the bible, which he’s never opened in his life, but that’s another topic.
Do you have a clue now? How do you not see it the same way?
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Are you seriously this far off the mark? Your view is so patently distorted.
Trump did not threaten non-violent protesters. He did threaten the looters, destroyers, and anarchists you Democrats want so badly to protect because they assist you in your efforts to take down the existing order you so hate.
You watch too much mainstream media “news”.
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You watch too much right-wing-nut “news.” I don’t have an antenna or a cable subscription, so no, I don’t watch too much mainstream media.
Most of the protests are non-violent. Even in cases of violent protests the states have not requested federal assistance. Trump’s threat to send in the military was an unnecessary and unwarranted escalation.
The acts taken in DC to clear the crowd near the WH for the church photo op were taken against peaceful protesters by military police. It’s outrageous.
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Are you crazy?? Who else?? Biden is their man & anyway to try an out POTUS is their game…
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Here we have a rare point of (at least semi) agreement.
Failure by Democrat state administrations to protect life and property from the rioters left President Trump with no choice except to act, in the face of their fear, hesitation and reticence, to protect lives and property of their own citizens. Some decent and honest people, despite Trump’s best efforts, lost everything they had worked for their entire lives.
I stand with the people being attacked and looted, not with antifa.
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You are mistaken on multiple issues.
(1) There’s no fear or hesitation, only understanding that most protests are non-violent and are Constitutional. A whole lot of research from 60’s and 70’s proved that escalation of the policing force leads to escalation of violence. It is not helpful.
(2) He did have a choice (and still does). He needs to carry a message of unity and understanding, not divisiveness and hatred.
And while I feel for the businesses that were damaged or destroyed, the solution he proposed (and you support) would not just lead to arrests of the relatively small number of looters and anarchists – it would hurt everyone in the vicinity, even if they were peacefully assembling and protesting. To me, the oppression of the many freedom-loving and expressing people is much worse than protecting a few businesses from a few anarchists.
And another thing you have to keep in mind is that looters and rioters can be planted. Wanna clear a peaceful protest? Plant a few black ops, incite some vandalism, and bam – you’re free to send in the military to clear a formerly peaceful protest.
Is there evidence for who the rioters are anyway? Antifa is not a distinct group so blaming them seems tentative. If they had found specific groups, say BAMN members, involved in the riots, that’d be a lot more convincing than vague finger pointing.
From what I’ve read, it sounded like federal investigators had found both far-right and far-left instigators for these riots. Personally, I find this very plausible since the riots could push either of these extremists’ agendas. Anything to resolve disagreements by violence, fear, and intimidation rather than understanding, respect and compromise.
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It was fun watching George last Sunday morning on This Week. He was like a dog with a bone, unable to let loose of the “right wing rioters” thing. Reality is, the evildoers are overwhelmingly lefties. But our left wing mainstream media propagandists will never tell the truth about this. Have you ever heard a kind word about President Trump from them? The guy cannot be all bad. But they would prefer death to reporting the good things he has accomplished.
I remember Soviet propaganda from the 1950’s. Today’s American mainstream media could give lessons to those old commies.
So true!!
I watch CNN every so often to see their idea of news. Pathetic!! I don’t think there has been a mention today of our American hostage being released. Nothing!!
But boy, they covered George Floyd assembly to high heaven. (I know I will hear about this remark)
Just because, for example, the mayor of NYC won’t let the NYPD do their jobs or call in the national guard doesn’t mean they aren’t needed. Of course the mayors daughter was arrested with the rioters at 11pm that were burning cop cars and looting, and he was proud of her, so we know which side he stands on.
I agree peaceful protests should be respected, but this is why you have curfews. The protests can go all day and then end at 6-7pm; after that you can have the guys with guns out arresting anyone up to no good. There were rampaging mobs torching cop cars, wrecking stores, and looting through the high end parts of Manhattan! Plus with the mayor’s “bail reform” the people the police did arrest were released immediately and have been looting each night instead of being jailed until their charges were addressed (or at the very least until things calmed down).
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Nonviolent protests only work when the side you are protesting against has a sense of shame or honor.
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Trump didn’t like Murkowski’s decision to support Mattis.