The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

"Attorney Kathryn Kimball Mizelle just landed a lifetime seat on the federal court at age 33…

“Mizelle is only eight years out of law school (University of Florida), and the ABA’s standard for a lifetime seat is 12 years of legal experience…She will take her seat on the Eleventh Circuit for the Middle District of Florida having never tried a case—civil or criminal—as a lead attorney or co-counsel.”

This is simple partisan court packing. She’s an ideologue expected to decide one particular way, even though she has never decided a case, never tried a case, and now she has a lifetime appointment.

Additionally, the Senate keeps confirming a lame duck President’s nominations which has been done only once, in 1896.

“A GOP county chairman who is listed as a plaintiff on ex-Trump attorney Sidney Powell’s typo-filled fraud lawsuit says he never agreed to take part in the legal action”

All these clowns need to be disbarred.

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A thanksgiving parable and a bit of history for all the capitalists (and would-be socialists) here.

He listed five things, but he forgot to mention the one thing that would explain it all – more people hate Trump than like him. You don’t have to be enthusiastic about Biden to vote Trump out of office.

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This story itself is a hoax.

Well I guess you can interpret Gov. Bradford’s log for yourself, but it sure sounds like the pilgrims were not super happy about the early collectivism and preferred owning their own land and fruits of their efforts. (The link renders the early modern English characters better than the paste below, ye = the, etc)

All this whille no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expecte any. So they begane to thinke how they might raise as much corne as they could, and obtaine a beter crope then they had done, that they might not still thus languish in miserie. At length, after much debate of things, the Govr (with ye advise of ye cheefest amongest them) gave way that they should set corne every man for his owne perticuler, and in that regard trust to them selves; in all other things to goe on in ye generall way as before. And so assigned to every family a parcell of land, according to the proportion of their number for that end, only for present use (but made no devission for inheritance), and ranged all boys & youth under some familie. This had very good success; for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corne was planted then other waise would have bene by any means ye Govr or any other could use, and saved him a great deall of trouble, and gave farr better contente. The women now wente willingly into ye feild, and tooke their litle-ons with them to set corne, which before would aledg weaknes, and inabilitie; whom to have compelled would have bene thought great tiranie and oppression.

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The experience that was had in this com̅one course and condition, tried sundrie years, and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanitie of that conceite of Platos & other ancients, applauded by some of later times;—that ye taking away of propertie, and bringing in com̅unitie into a comone wealth, would make them happy and florishing; as if they were wiser then God. For this comunitie (so farr as it was) was found to breed much confusion & discontent, and retard much imploymēt that would have been to their benefite and comforte. For ye yong-men that were most able and fitte for labour & service did repine that they should spend their time & streingth to worke for other mens wives and children, with out any recompence. The strong, or man of parts, had no more in devission of victails & cloaths, then he that was weake and not able to doe a quarter ye other could; this was thought injuestice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and [97] equalised in labours, and victails, cloaths, &c., with ye meaner & yonger sorte, thought it some indignite & disrespect unto them. And for mens wives to be commanded to doe servise for other men, as dresing their meate, washing their cloaths, &c., they deemd it a kind of slaverie, neither could many husbands well brooke it.

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It’s crazy we’re at the point that this is “news”

Yeah, I know it must be a sad day for you, to find out all that fearmongering was in fact baseless.

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What do you mean “baseless”? He did not and probably will not concede, he keeps pushing bullshit about voter fraud and claiming that he won, and right there in the article he said it’ll be a mistake for the electoral college vote to go against him, but if they make that mistake, he’ll leave.

He’ll have no choice at that point, but the fact that this is news is crazy because whether the loser leaves is not even a question when things (and leaders) are not crazy.

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It’s only “news” because you’ve already spent months front-running the story by pushing specultive bullshit about what happens when he refuses to leave. To now find out that no, whoops, turns out he’s not going to do that, is only news because it was purposefully set up to be news.

As I said, baseless fearmongering.

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Are you saying that at this time there’s absolutely no chance of his campaign pulling something to delay certifications or somehow obtain faithless electors? I’m not as certain.

Are you accusing @scripta of being @theRealRonaldDrumpf on twitter? You’re referring to scripta about the President’s own tweets and “press conferences”…

In my exchange up thread with scripta, I claimed only state legislatures can make voting rules. Scripta then correctly pointed out to me that in Pennsylvania the legislature there did, indeed, pass Act 77. That caught me by surprise and I accepted scripta’s point.

After further review

This stuff is darned complicated and the devil is VERY MUCH in the details. First, nothing has changed and Act 77 was without question passed by the PA legislature. However Act 77 did not provide an extended voting deadline. It was the courts in Pennsylvania that did so, not the legislature. And that is what goes back to my original point that, according to the Pennsylvania Constitution, courts are not empowered to do such a thing. Again, only the legislature is so empowered, and they did not extend the deadline.

Obviously all this detail will come out, and everything will be made clear, when this matter finally reaches the SCOTUS. Over 600,000 votes are on the line, and most of them are from Democrat leaning regions of Pennsylvania. If the SCOTUS upholds the Pennsylvania Constitution, Trump will win the state. But what a mess!!

The tension between the WH and the GOP Georgia’s Secretary of State stance is simpler. It’s not just the money invested. When you’ve worked to the best of your abilities on a project and honestly think it turned out very well, you’re going to defend your integrity and the quality of your work ahead of party/company affiliation as they reflect on you and your career alone. Especially when the outcome of the vote does not affect you or your career much compared to entertaining the possibility that you did sloppy work at your current position (as in not vet the Dominion system enough).

Plus, he’s not alone. 28 States used the Dominion voting system so he was not the only one who had determined that it was good enough to be used in their State.

As for the paper trail of these machines, from personal experience, the paper scroll on the side of the machine is pretty easy to ignore and hard to read honestly. When voting in person, I’d only check it for the races I really cared about (say POTUS, Congress, State races and some local issues). For minor races, I’d also not bother to check as it’d slow down the process even further. If you’re in a rush, voter could easily skip the entire process. But in terms of accuracy, it’s probably still better than filling bubbles or punching chads and then machine scanning.

The good news is despite all the suspicions, nobody has come forth with any verifiable evidence of defective operation of the machines. Unlike the previous systems which had demonstrated errors. Until proven otherwise, that’s good enough for me.

I think the interpretation is very much dependent on how you want to view things.

If you assume that the previous system fit the definition of collectivism, then it was a win for capitalism. If you assume the previous system fit the definition of corporation and wage slaves, then it’s a win for private business owners revolting against corporate reach.

Personally, I see it as a win for individualism either way. Working for someone else’s benefit remove growth incentives.

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I’m not in the least surprised.

First, everything might indeed be on the up and up. The machines could be just fine and not changing votes at all.

If the machines actually did change votes to favor Biden, it was because of persons deeply committed to a Biden win (or more likely to a Trump loss) and not about to come forward and volunteer they had misbehaved. Perhaps even more salient, those same persons would have to possess the technical skill set needed to turn on the more insidious aspects of the voting machines . . . again if those aspects even remain today extant.

My gut says all that would be a rather heavy lift, but I would concede nothing is impossible and the stakes are very, very high . . . so maybe.

Given the provenance of the Dominion machines I do not question that at some point, years ago, shenanigans were probably supported and likely. That was then. This is now. Did all those “back doors”, or whatever you want to call them, survive? I certainly don’t know and finding proof is gonna be tough.