The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

“Man, this is hard to watch. This video appears to show a police officer being dragged down the stairs face down while Trump supporters beat him to a pulp, even using American flags.”

" According to TMZ , one rioter could be heard shouting “Get that motherf***** out of there! Take him out!"

These people and their allies online are calling for more attacks and more blood and it appears the Trump supporters posting here and elsewhere support this. FBI and police scan online sites like they used to have to scan for Al Qaeda and Jihadi terrorists.

These same people were going through the capitol attacking reporters and looking for Congressmen and Mike Pence to attack.

All real Americans should be outraged and demand arrest and stiffest prosecution of people involved as well as banning of all the hate groups online and everywhere, making them illegal organizations. They are clearly vicious, violent extremists bent on violent overthrow of the US government and assaults on law enforcement.

Do you just make stuff up?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-suspends-parler-from-app-store-11610241352

Parler executives told The Wall Street Journal it has been working to bolster its content-moderation efforts and sharing such information with large tech companies concerned about its practices.

In the past few days, Parler doubled its team of volunteer moderators—called “jurors”—to more than a thousand and instructed them to search “hot” hashtags for incitement, a more proactive approach than what was used previously, said Jeffrey Wernick, Parler’s operating chief. The company had also instructed its jurors to hunt down any content suggesting violence within the comment sections of its more highly trafficked sections, and planned to hire employees to bolster these efforts, according to Amy Peikoff, chief policy officer of Parler.

But AAPL said that wasn’t enough and banned them, while saying, no doubt, whatever oversights slipped through the cracks at Facebook or Twitter (“Hang Mike Pence” was a top Twitter trend, more on Twitter) were just fine and no action needed to be taken against their apps.

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Do you think politicians have a right to raise money? One credit card processor has banned the Trump campaign.

I mean, if they don’t like it, they should just make their own banking system, right? But I guess the Fed has a monopoly on that, so maybe not. Who wants to guess if it’s SQ, PYPL, V or MC that bans his campaign next?

Do you think those who engage in violent insurrection against America, attacking, wounding and killing police officers and publicly support this deserve any consideration for anything anywhere any time?

Why do you support violent assaults on Americans and our country?

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Which member of the Trump campaign was that again?

You didn’t answer the question.

Again.

But, to answer yours, start with Donald J. Trump, the head of the Trump campaign.

Please answer my question. Yes or No.

Of whom are you speaking? No Names, that I see…

I agree that the Apple app store is a monopolistic abomination. But a “store” is not required to install Android apps and there are even alternatives to Google Play, so in that sense Google does not have a monopoly. Facebook also doesn’t have a monopoly on social media (it’s not the first and hopefully not the last), even though it’s has the most reach and may be considered a de-facto monopoly because of it.

From the article:

The author supposes that it’s possible that Trump supporters are more likely to break neutrally applied ToS agreements, then introduces doubt based on selected statistics he collected. I don’t see the names of the 22 people he used to reach his conclusion, so I find it difficult to agree with his doubts.

A better explanation is that the extreme right minority is more angry, more loud, and more organized. I’ve long ago thought that allowing comments below news articles was a terrible idea, as those comments could influence readers more than the articles themselves. And since comments could be made anonymously, they could also be made automatically by bots and foreign agents acting against our interests. I’m guessing NYT only allows comments for paid / registered users?

If you can’t think for yourself and want to discuss things with others, talk to your friends, family, and neighbors, or on other forums or news aggregators like reddit, slashdot, even this forum.

When a post does not contain a quote or a username, it’s usually because it refers to the post that immediately preceded it.

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Yes, I think that’s what they do from what I can tell as a non-subscriber. WSJ allows paid users to comment in a similar way.

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Good news for America:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/capitol-riot-suspects-allegedly-brought-221100302.html

Yes, companies have a right to decide who to do business with. And they have a legal responsibility not to launder money for terrorists or those who organize insurrection. They would bear criminal liability if they knowingly laundered money for a terrorist organization.

Also, free speech. Of course they aren’t obligated to continue make campaign contributions to those who have decided to attack the USA and democracy.

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The only way Trump knows how to “negotiate” – blackmail, extortion, threats…to his own “allies” and “supporters.” He’s basically a criminal and behaves like one most of the time.

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These two need to be charged with more serious crimes because of the restraints they were carrying, which goes to their true intent. The punishment for the current charges is a joke, relatively speaking.

I have a nagging feeling that Trump’s final gift to America as POTUS will be a pardon for everyone who entered the Capitol. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m guessing it being a federal building, all the charges are federal.

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It’s Pence and the GOP fully responsible for any further disgraces, not Trump, since they have not invoked the 25th. He has demonstrated he is unfit and a clear and present danger.

Edit:Popovich summed up the same sentiment with respect to Cruz and Hawley.

https://thespun.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/gregg-popovich-message-senators-us/amp

"Hawley’s a joke. This entitled, elite, educated person is really smart, just like Ted Cruz is smart, but they throw fuel onto Trump’s fire. They are worse than Trump because they are not sick. They’re not deeply flawed. Mr. Trump is not a well man. These people are sane. But their self-interest, their greed, their lust for power outweighs their love of country or their sense of duty to the constitution or public service.”

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Or for any other reason of course. I approve of these sorts of donation impacts, both from companies and individuals, for politicians who for whatever reason no longer represent the interests of the donor.

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Nail hit on head. Thanks!

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Again, utter bullshit. These are Republican election officials in a Republican state saying that you’re spouting bullshit. Repeatedly, with results verified by post election recounts and audits (including a full manual recount of all ballots, and a random audit of 15k absentee ballots that found ZERO fraudulent ballots). The Republican legislature leadership and the Republican governor agreed with the results. I live here, I know. I’ve seen them all say it. I can guarantee that if these folks thought the ballots cast were fraudulent they wouldn’t have certified the election.

You’re living in an alternate world, as are your mislead friends. This is the crux of the problem.

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Anyone think Trump is a good and responsible administrator?