The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

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Well I believe shinobi is really referring to Southern CA. You know, I’ve mentioned many times, it’s the liberal political policies that I dislike. (well sure high taxes etc)

Now I know Northern CA is terribly different than So CA. (same politics) Beautiful country, more sane folks, (but skip the Bay Area).

So all & all, we take the good with bad & just try to get along. :relaxed:

OK, so by that logic let’s also exclude Orange County, because it’s mostly conservative, but then include Santa Ana, because it’s mostly liberal, then exclude some wealthy neighborhoods, but then include some individual homes. So individual homes are not part of the USA, their neighbors are, but not all of them. LOL.

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Setting the bar so low he won’t break his foot stepping over it, both the lapdog media and Biden himself.

“There’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months,” Biden said during a speech at the White House.

Funny, I’m pretty sure I remember everyone telling me how all these masks and federal task force coordination would be so much better under him than Trump, and now even Biden says it won’t do anything for months. Sure you can’t stop the people who are sick now from getting worse, but that only plays out over 2 weeks, give or take, so saying you can’t do anything for months sounds like he’s planning for total failure.

I think it will be a whole lot better than that, incidentally, just from the vaccinations playing out.

So you’re saying there’s a pandemic and Trump was lying about it?

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But muh free speaches!

Guess he can’t create an account on the Russian Parler service?

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I know there are some wonderful area’s in SO CA. A few years ago, I was involved in a lawsuit against a relative that lived in Costa Mesa (he is a liberal). I had an attorney in Santa Ana, another beautiful area. Even though I also had an attorney in Sacramento, I spent time in some of the areas of which you talked.

I won my lawsuit which made those relatives quite angry. But yes there are wonderful places to live in California.

True, mostly we can all get along in spite of our political differences. In fact if we met, outside politics, we probably could have a friendly conversation. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

NPR getting the virus narrative right already.

Firstly, NPR is not taxpayer-funded, as I believe we’ve already discussed here. And secondly, I don’t see any contradictions between the two articles. Some of the institutions that do the projections (IHME?) detected or reported what they think may be a peak, and the media is just reporting that. I’ve only seen this mentioned very recently, though I don’t know exactly when it came out.

Probably. I don’t wear my politics (no flags, posters, stickers, shirts) and I don’t talk politics with strangers. I also don’t talk to people who wear the wrong politics :slight_smile:.

"Stager was identified as a man beating a Washington police officer repeatedly with the pole flying a U.S. flag after rioters dragged the officer down the Capitol’s west stairs.

“It is simply shocking and concerns me deeply," Ray said toward the end of a roughly three-hour hearing.

OK.
Then I guess we would never have a friendly conversation. I don’t plan to change my political mind. :relaxed:

Mitt Romney is among a handful of Senators who call themselves “Republicans” while hating Trump and likely to vote to convict him next month. After all, Romney voted to convict Trump during impeachment 1.0.

Above are the reasons the Trump-hating American mainstream media chooses to offer Romney on-air interview opportunities. It’s how they roll.

Did you not vote for Romney?? Don’t tell me you voted for Obama?

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This morning’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos featured an informative shouting match between little George and Senator Rand Paul. It was pretty funny.

Rand commenced detailing the POTUS election irregularities from last November and George hit the ceiling. Stephanopoulos abandoned completely his supposed role as journalist and went into Democrat Party hack mode. Course we all know the former is merely a ruse anyway, the latter being George’s true identity. Rand stood firm and gave as good as he got, or even better.

Their exchange was informative for be because I’m still trying to wrap my head around exactly what happened. George pointed repeatedly to Trump’s many, many court losses. Rand pointed out that courts repeatedly refused to try election cases on the facts, rejecting pivotal pleadings instead on various procedural grounds. Texas is a good example of this.

But Rand’s side of the argument pointed implicitly, and never explicitly, to how badly Trump’s advocates stubbed their toes, repeatedly making Quixotic legal thrusts into what they should have realized was infertile soil, while failing to bring to fruition cases which were far more likely to bear fruit.

I do not know with certainty who fairly won the election. But I believe Biden almost surely won when all the votes were counted. The dilemma, as Rand Paul highlighted, was whether or not all votes cast were in accord with law and well established past procedures.

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Nope. If that were the case, he would have challenged states trump “won” and disputed other elections GOP house/ senate won.

Rand has been such a disappointment.
Nothing like Amash. Nothing like his dad either, though Ron seems to have really gone further and further off the deep end over the last decade…

Procedural grounds ARE the facts and the law… You’d prefer throwing out valid votes on imaginary grounds instead?

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