Come one come all, the USA welcomes you . . . and bring us your COVID-19
Whether you’re in India or in Central America, the USA wants you. Please come here, walk right in, and don’t worry about further infecting us with your COVID-19.
There are more important considerations than enhancing spread of disease. What is most important is American virtue signalling and hospitality even, no especially, at our own expense. The worst outcome for America is for anyone, anywhere, to accuse us of being unwelcoming. If some of us must perish in order to avoid that, so be it.
I’m Joe Biden, and to me American citizens are no more important than any other human beings anywhere in the world. Heck, maybe we’re even less important!
Shut up, you crazy person. You aught to be put away. You are so stupid, No way here! imo
I can see shinobi is granting you an apology. I never would! You couldn’t take a kindly get lost from me. You’re the type of person that would follow along behind & never be able to take a hint. I don’t know what else I can say. imo
But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the left that is vilifying the cop for saving the life of the female that the suspect was actively trying to stab when he shot.
This is what I don’t understand. 15 years ago, no one would have had an issue with an armed person actively attempting to stab someone getting shot by the police. Not even people on the left. What has changed in your mind in the past 15 years that this is now somehow controversial?
He would have been fired because warning shots are dangerous and are against policy in every police department.
He shot until the threat was no longer present, which is what police are trained to do. When someone is actively stabbing someone, you don’t shoot once and wait to see if it worked.
What deflection? Where did you see me defend Chauvin? Or Grossman? Neither have anything to do with Bryant.
Agreed. That is exactly what many on the left are doing.
No question that is correct. But I am hesitant about such training, which amounts to “keep shooting until the target is dead”. Maybe police need more target practice . . . or different training. The officer needed to protect the woman who was about to be stabbed, no question. Such is his sworn duty. But did he have to kill in order to accomplish that? A single shot correctly placed can take a person down.
Having gone through a police academy in 2008 and in-service training every year from then until 2015, I can speak to this with quite a bit of knowledge.
A single shot can take a person down, but most often, it does not. Many years ago, police were trained on the double-tap. Bang bang, reholster. Bang bang, reholster. Bang bang, reload and reholster. The reason that stopped is because too many cops got killed because they reholstered and then the threat (which had not been eliminated by the bang bang) killed them. Police are now trained to fire until the threat is eliminated. This was not a situation where the cop should have stopped firing. That’s because the assailant was actively attacking another person with lethal force. Gunshot wounds in real life are nothing like the movies. People fight through being shot in the torso center mass all the time. There are countless videos of real life shootings on youtube with suspects and police continuing to fight after being shot. Watch them sometime. You will get a new appreciation for what the police have to deal with. It is conjecture on the same level as the left to say that the threat would have been eliminated in the Bryant shooting if the cop had only hit her once. It is just as likely that we could have two dead girls instead of one if the cop had shot once and waited to see if that stopped her from stabbing her victim.
I get where you’re coming from. But in my view that thinking applies more readily if the target is wielding a firearm, which can be deadly even as the perp is falling to the ground and gets off a last shot. In that situation the officer has to keep shooting. I understand.
But it was a knife in this instance, and I view that as a different situation. If a single shot was not enough to give that knife wielding woman a whole lot of pause, the officer should have been equipped with a larger caliper weapon.
Regardless, the officer behaved in accord with his training and surely deserves praise for most likely saving the life of an innocent person, and not criticism. But I still think the training needs reexamination.
I believe the statement here from meed 18, tells the story like it is. In many instances there is not a second chance to get it right. Certainly the riled up girl with the knife was seriously dangerous.
You don’t seem to understand the physiological effects of adrenaline and pain overload during a life threatening situation. Not to mention if the suspect is on a controlled substance at the time (which would have been impossible for this officer to determine in the time he had). The body can and often does fight through the immediate pain of 9mm +P ammunition for some time. The negative tradeoffs of a firearm chambered in larger caliber ammunition would outweigh the positives. I don’t know what caliber Columbus PD uses, but I’ll wager it’s 9mm or .40. Modern 9mm ammunition offers the same or better stopping power than .40 while allowing officers to carry more and being more controllable. Almost no departments use anything larger than .40. So this argument is not useful in this context.
Shut up, you crazy person. You aught to be put away. You are so stupid, No way here! imo
I can see shinobi is granting you an apology. I never would! You couldn’t take a kindly get lost from me. You’re the type of person that would follow along behind & never be able to take a hint. I don’t know what else I can say. imo
Patty – what is your specific objection to what Kamal is sharing with the group?
It’s not villifying to examine training and also the other circumstances that led to the event.
The child was in the foster care system and as such the state was responsible and failed, one way or another.
The reporter FOX whined about and vilified for asking why she wasn’t shot in the leg is absurd. The reporter was doing their job. The answer was relevant and important, and many people would have a similar question. The question and answer were necessary and constructive. (Officers, and anyone else, are unable to accurately shoot someone in the leg in such situation and it would have been more dangerous to attempt. ).
Who has been saying to charge the officer with murder? I’m not plugged into any media but I’d be highly surprised if that is a predominant theme. You refer to “the left is vilifying the cop”, presumably referring to the 60% of the USA population that doesn’t support criminal Trump and the insurrectionists. But my presumption could be wrong. Maybe you’re referring to only one specific person or something as “the left”.
This question has been asked so many times and answered the same way so many times that the continued asking of it is a backdoor way of say police shouldn’t be allowed to shoot people in the torso.
LeBron James posted a picture of the cop with the caption “You’re Next #Accountability.” The only people saying that was wrong are on the right. The predominant theme in the corporate media and on the left is that the officer should have done something other than shoot her in the torso. No one on the left is saying to charge him with murder. But no one on the left is acknowledging the fact that he saved the life of at least one, possibly two black females (because she did attempt a knife attack on another girl first) by responding the way he did. There is footage of the shooting from across the street that shows that the officer calmly walked up, tried (in the few seconds he had) to figure out what was going on, and was immediately forced to stop an armed person from killing multiple people while not shooting any of the many bystanders standing around.
So you’re just going to start the story in the middle? She wasn’t born into foster care. How did she get into the foster care system? According to the people yelling right after the shooting, some of her family was literally on scene before the police got there. If you want to pass around fault, how much responsibility do they have? How much does her mother have? How much does her father have? Are you seriously going to blame the foster care system, which usually gets involved as a last resort, for Bryant’s actions?
" A former member of Donald Trump’s White House coronavirus task force has lifted the lid on what went down behind the scenes when the then-president talked on national TV last year about injecting disinfectant to combat the coronavirus.
“We’re in shock. You could see everyone looking around the room, saying, ‘did he really just say that?’” recalled Olivia Troye, a former aide to then-Vice President Mike Pence, in a new video released by the anti-Trump conservative organization, the Republican Accountability Project, on Saturday."
"…Troye remembered the fallout of reports of people swallowing or gargling bleach to ward off COVID-19.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gave President Biden a progressive thumbs up for his 100 days in office Friday night.
“The Biden Administration and President Biden have definitely exceeded expectations that progressives had,” Democratic Socialist Ocasio-Cortez said during a virtual town hall meeting.
“A lot of us expected a much more conservative administration.”
Ocasio-Cortez gave Biden her leftist seal of approval largely based on his actions in pushing through the $1.9 trillion COVID-19 stimulus package, known as the American Rescue Plan.
She said his willingness to show flexibility in negotiations has been “very impressive” and led to the passage of “progressive legislation.”
AOC didn’t even mention Biden’s open border. She must be thrilled with the “progress” there.
But no question Biden has delivered for his far left fringe supporters. Heck, he has done better for them than even Bernie could have done.
Respect for law enforcement: “Trump referred to FBI agents as “scum” who “destroyed the lives of people” and branded as “rats” people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.”
You can’t give up… Trump is gone from the white house. You left wing radicals should find someone new to rat on. You have plenty of scum in your own Democrat house to go after.
Immediately after the conviction, trying to talk about anything else but Chauvin being a convicted murderer.
In fact Republican’s have to do it so much there’s literally an opinion piece going over Republican’s history of deflection from things like Chauvin. (I saw it after posting about the deflection, whether you believe that or not)
