That is fair, I guess. Obviously I was thinking in terms of the persons depicted on the various bills.
So how do you feel about Hillary on the hundred? 
Sure, that’s the same thing I said (or the intent, anyways). You’re saying something similar to that an incomplete picture of “John Wayne” can be someone’s hero. Just pretend we don’t know of any glaring defects.
Still disagree that he should be publicly held up as a hero for future generation(s), though. That’s what public spaces and statues do. It’s not solely my decision here though, and I don’t pretend it is. It’s up to the individuals (in private organizations), or the majority to decide (directly, or indirectly through elected representatives).
Just a cautionary note for all you liberals in the northwestern region of the USA:
A whole lot of us Americans who live elsewhere are NOT BUYING what you folks are trying peddle. And folks, it is a REALLY big country.
Who cares about those glaring defects. If you loved John Wayne in past years, you probably never heard of glaring defects. I believe you are the only one here & now that cares about your so called defects.
Yes, the South Will Rise Again!
(Oh wait, the Not-a-Republican in office might flip Texas Blue ahead of schedule… Gonna be tough for any Republican to win nationally when Texas permanently flips.
Actually will be dangerous, basically locked to the Democratic primary winner for a while. Primaries are heavily influenced by minorities and insiders in both parties. It’s much more dangerous without a significant general election step.)
At this point, the way things are unfolding, let me tell you we could do a LOT worse!
I support traditional American values. I am sick and tired of this ongoing liberal/Marxist onslaught! And let me warn you, so are millions of other traditional minded Americans.
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You said “John Wayne should be no one’s hero” and “society need not revere him”.
That is in no way, shape, or form “the same thing”. Your intent was perfectly clear, you left no room for interpretation.
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NJ held a vote-by-mail election. The whole thing will probably have to be redone as 20% of the ballots are being investigated for fraud.
Following accusations of widespread fraud, voter intimidation, and ballot theft in the May 12 municipal elections in Paterson, N.J., state Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal (pictured) announced Thursday he is charging four men with voter fraud – including the vice president of the City Council and a candidate for that body.
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The person is not the same as the “celebrity” image (if you’re old enough to have been around when he was one), and neither of those is the same as the fictional “character”.
I can see how many can ignore new information they learn rather than shattering an image they have in their head. I can’t. I’ve tried (not in this situation, but others, because I don’t idolize or hold up as a hero any celebrities).
I think this is similar to the whole idea around changing statues and monuments. The idea is to make it less accessible, so the person doesn’t become a role model for new generation (s). House of cards is still on Netflix. But it’s not going to come up at the top of the suggested/displayed titles.
Despite the title suggesting 1 in 5 were fraudulent (there’s an “as” separating the two things), the first sentence says otherwise.
“More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections.”
1 in 5 were rejected. Not the same as 1 in 5 are fraudulent. Most of those it says were rejected because the signatures didn’t match what was on file.
Hopefully they figure out what went wrong, that seems like a lot of rejected ballots.
I can see why people choose to focus on the positive, rather than obsess over the negative.
The constant condescending attitude (from you and others) gets tiresome. Of course if someone disagrees with what you deem to be ‘obvious’, it must be because they dont understand or are mindless sheep or are just ignoring things. Cant possible be that they do know the facts, the do understand the situation, and have made a different decision on what’s important and what should be prioritized.
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I wasn’t being condescending there, I was describing one of my own character flaws (I said I have [intentionally] tried but failed). I don’t think the flaw makes me better or is advantageous. I apologise if I came off as condescending.
I also said it wasn’t up to me whether an airport is renamed or whether Princeton changes a name on one of their buildings. And I really couldn’t care less at all either way on the latter. But I can see there is a viewpoint from either side on those issues.
I’ve also watched a lot of John Wayne films with my Dad, so that issue does have some pull personally…
First I think no living person should ever appear on money or have statues. Second, I know you were joking, but no – I could write a long list of people I wouldn’t mind on our currency, but she would not make that list.
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It’s condescending because it presumes the information is new and being ignored to preserve a preexisting opinion. You’re saying that the other perspectives exist only out of ignorance, and arent truly informed opinions.
Some people simply dont care that someone did what was common place in their time, regardless of how we perceive it today. That’s the whole concept of evolution, our standards today arent relevant to what happened 50, 100, 150 years ago.
I think a lot of the asshole celebrities of today should be taken down a notch before we go attacking historical figures simply for having lived in the time period they happened to live.
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NYC as shootings surge, it looks like the locals there will get fewer police whether they wanted that or not. The cops can see the writing on the wall, and it doesn’t look good for the city. Not everyone living there now remembers the time before Rudy when any sensible person took a knife when they went out (if they weren’t taking a gun too).
Said John Jay professor Giacalone: “We are living in the Twilight Zone — where the good guys are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys. No bail, no jail, selective prosecution — unless you’re a cop, then game on. “People have lost their collective minds.”
Meanwhile, doing the job some local politicians won’t let their cops do, the FBI is arresting some of rioters who were destroying statues and is after a lot more.
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That seems quite sensationalized in the opposite direction. NYC has 36,000(?) police officers, and 272 is less than a quarter of their normal attrition rate.
Agreed, glitch99.
It amuses me to contemplate how today’s liberal intelligentsia will be judged and evaluated one hundred years hence. They might not be regarded by future persons as highly as I’m certain they today would anticipate.
The immediate future can, to some extent, be foreseen. The distant future not so much.
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The article says it’s 50% higher rate than usual.
272 uniformed cops putting in retirement papers from then through June 24, the NYPD says. That’s a 49 percent spike from the 183 officers who filed during the same period last year, according to the department.
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