The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

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One of the comments in the above article summed it up pretty well.

If you actually wanted safer communities and better policing, you would abolish police unions, improve training and tactics, mandate body cameras, and reduce the militarization of our city and neighborhood police forces.

If you wanted to tear apart the fabric of our society in order to gain political power with which to crush your opponents, you would demonize law enforcement and defund and dismantle our police departments. You would do this knowing that increased crime disproportionately impacts the very communities you pretend to care about.

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Don’t you need to add the third category (or really, it is part of that second category) of deniers of the first category, throwing out distractions. And pretending everyone in the first group is in that second group.

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This is so wrong. I. Can’t. Even.

What you are saying here, is that in order to supposedly save face, we should just all be quiet about the terrible human being we put in the highest office and the terrible leadership with which he constantly surrounds himself. It’s a preposterous idea. We do not live under a monarch or a dictator (not yet anyway) and we love our freedom of speech and the press. If we kept quiet, the shit would still come out and it would be even more embarrassing. The experiment that is the USA is supposed to set an example for the world. What kind of example would it be if we said nothing and swept our own failures under the rug?

Yes, perhaps the article in question is nit-picking on something really stupid. But many of his supporters are stupid enough to believe his every word. His style of speaking (constant and repeated exaggerations mixed with half-truths and outright lies) is a purposeful trick that works on many people. Our only hope is that these people read the articles and try to learn that his word is not gospel.

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Who here is surprised that Tucker has been getting his inspiration and words from a racist misogynistic and homophobic bigot?

I’m surprised that it took so long to uncover him, and that it’s only one so far. Tucker is probably surrounded by such people.

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Ignoring the fact that this is nothing but a subjective opinion. When your teenage daughter tries to go out half naked, you dont go running around town reminding everyone to ogle her. That’s one hell of an example to set for the rest of the world. Especially when most of that shit isnt even shit - it’s half selective spinning, half conjecture, and the only facts involved are the “nit-picking” stuff that serve no purpose other than to try to make him look bad.

Today’s experiment is not the USA that is supposed to set an example for the world. The USA that lead the world earned that place, the USA we have now is a laughingstock because a bunch of people got bent over the fact their guy didnt win.

To claim we love our freedom, then to show such a blantent lack of respect for those with different opinions than yours…

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Who here is sick of the obsession over regulating words and thoughts, instead of actions?

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You are wrong. The world laughs the moment we do something really dumb. It laughed at California when Arnold became governor. It was funny. Though thankfully he was not bad. The world laughed when Trump won. We didn’t have to do anything else or say anything else after that to be the laughingstock.

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Nota bene

We observe here the words of a globalist, and a rather insecure one at that; so much concern about what “the world” thinks of us.

As an America first nationalist, and surely no globalist, I could not care less what “the world” thinks of us. In fact, I wish they thought even less of America than appears to be the case. Perhaps then they would cease their attempts to enter our country in contravention of our laws, and to remain here even though they have no legal right whatsoever to do so.

Globalists, and the specious globalism in which they place their faith, are a curse . . . a pox on America and, indeed, on the entire world. Here is why:

It is peaceful competition among nations that leads to the best outcomes for this world. Such competitive juices flow less readily when everyone is on the same team. Competition among nations, and among individuals as well, is a powerful, unequaled, motivator. And very few of us do not need, or benefit from, additional motivation.

There are many examples of the above assertion. Perhaps the one most prominent during my lifetime was our successful moon landing. Without threat of being beaten by the USSR, it would not have happened on President Kennedy’s promised schedule. In fact, given domestic politics, it might not have happened at all.

I well remember Sputnik and the embarrassing, humiliating, failed Redstones that followed. We were behind and losing. But our American competitive juices were just commencing to flow. They did and we eventually won.

America must never surrender its sovereignty or any portion thereof. We must jealously guard the true source of American exceptionalism, The Constitution of the United States of America, against any nature of foreign intrusion. We, and all of humanity, advance most rapidly based on individual responsibility and achievement, to include both individual persons and individual nations. Collectivism, socialism, and globalism are all siren songs we must reject lest our cherished American freedom and liberty be surrendered and forever lost.

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You seem to confuse American Exceptionalism and Nationalistic Pride with globalism.

The idea that America is unique and should always strive to be better than other countries and a shining example (in a position of leadership, and worthy of admiration by the rest of the world) is about as far away from “globalism” as one can get.

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I doubt Tucker got his inspiration from this guy. More like the guy fits the culture Tucker requires.
There are organizations with a nasty, toxic culture. The leadership in those organizations tend to hire people with those same traits. If you don’t have the traits, you don’t fit in.

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Leaders are about communication, “words”. Words from leaders translate into actions from followers and underlings. That, IMO, is why you can’t ignore words coming from the mouth or pen of powerful people, whether in government or organizations.

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I watch Tucker Carlson every night. He tells the news it like it is. (I know what you’re going to say)

It’s not irony, that Tucker set a record for viewers of news, in the history of the industry. I guarantee the ratings will stay up regardless of a top writer quitting.

No fake new from Tucker. :relaxed:

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My point is that the guy wouldn’t even be hired as a writer if it weren’t because of his mindset. You have to fit in to be hired and promoted in those writing roles.

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When the “rest of the world” consists increasingly of merely more and more globalists, their admiration is inversely proportional to how well we are doing as a country. Admiration from globalists is a scintillating negative, a sure fire indication we are on the wrong path! This is true whether they are domestic or foreign globalists.

Globalism is akin to multiculturalism in the sense that both are asinine.

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Yes, takes a certain mindset to reach the target audience.

Wouldn’t you also like to get to the bottom of why Barack Obama wasn’t in the oval office on 9/11? Always on vacation, never in the office…

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This could be explained with a supply/demand analysis. There is one supplier (Fox) to satisfy demand from one side of the house. There are more suppliers to meet demand from the other side of the house.

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It’s not a record for news viewers either. Just for basic Cable “entertainment” news. Similarly, the demand is not one side of a house (implying ~50%). It’s a small minority. 4 million “viewers” is not half the nation.

You’re right it’s just Fox zombie viewers (I have a relative who has it on ~24x7) in general and not really Carlson specifically - several other Fox entertainment shows had virtually equal numbers.

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CNN had Oliver Darcy on this morning. It seemed as though he was upset that Tucker would not apologize for his writer’s commentaries.

As expected, Tucker did address the issue Monday evening. No apology!! :cowboy_hat_face:

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This thread is a mirror of the poisonous political situation so John Hinderaker’s question needs to be discussed:

Is disunion in our future?

Until the last few months, the idea of disunion as anything but a historical relic had barely occurred to me. But lately, I have begun to wonder. Is there any basis on which we can share governance of America with people who hate our country and our traditions, institutions, culture and freedoms? Why, exactly, should we want to do so? Is there any set of shared assumptions and values that will allow normal Americans and leftists to work together as fellow citizens? One begins to wonder.

Are there any shared assumptions here? The leftists on the thread should let us know whether they think the USA is an evil, racist country that needs to be fundamentally transformed.

I do not and I do not see how there is any room in the center for a compromise.

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