Booster Shots: When will you get a booster (3rd) shot of the vaccine?

Now you are just making up stuff to backtrack. You responded to:

As far as I know, before covid people didn’t go around asking everyone for their vaccination status.

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Not everyone I suppose, but we did ask in all education settings and for all (legal) immigrants.

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I’m not making anything up or backtracking, I went back to the original question JUST TO BE SURE THAT YOU AREN’T CONFUSED about what the original question was.

And again, by “we did ask” I meant “we” as a society, not “we” as separate individuals.

Perhaps there’s a confusion about the meaning of the word "people’ in “before covid people didn’t go around asking everyone for their vaccination status.”

Perhaps you understand it to mean every individual person asking every other individual person, while I understand it to mean any person asking every (or almost every) person. So my response is – certainly we had people (at schools and at INS) who did go around asking everyone for their vaccination status. They didn’t ask everyone at once, but they did ask everyone in order – before they started school or before they were allowed to cross the border. This covers almost everyone.

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Except any potential confusion was clarified, at your request, and you replied to that clarification. There was no room for alternative understandings, because it was spelled out.

Besides, schools have never “gone around asking everyone” anything. The INS also doesnt go around asking anyone anything. The students and the immigrants come to them.

This is stupid, just agree that before covid, individuals did not go around asking other individuals their vaccination history.

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I’ll agree to this if you agree that individuals asking other individuals was unnecessary, because we had institutions that asked these questions of almost every individual at one time or another.

Probably. I was going off a small sample. I know someone who went deep down the conspiracy rabbit hole and gave no consideration to any scientific evidence for months. They finally gave up once stats came out in May or June that something like 98% of all people in hospitals and ICUs were unvaccinated. I’ve also been reading news stories about the “antivaxers” who changed their minds after getting seriously ill or who’ve died from COVID but their families encouraged others to vaccinate, sometimes right in the obituary.

No. Because the example given involved children too young for any institution to have asked anything. Individuals asking other individuals was the only way to attain such information, even just to get an estimated rate.

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Does the headline look curious?

FDA panel recommends Pfizer’s Covid booster doses for people 65 and older after rejecting third shots for general population

How many people read this article on a device that cuts off, or requires scrolling to get to, the second part?

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FDA strongly voted down Pfizer’s request for general population boosters:

Do the safety and effectiveness data from clinical trial C4591001 support approval of a COMIRNATY [PFE] booster dose administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series for use in individuals 16 years of age and older?

Panel voted: 3 Yes, 16 No, 0 Abstain

Having shot down the Biden push of Boosters For All, they tried to save him some face with an emergency authorization booster approval only for high risk people:

The FDA recognized multiple concerns raised by the panel, and decided to change to Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) rather than full approval (sBLA).

Based on the totality of scientific evidence available, including the safety and effectiveness data from clinical trial C4591001, do the known and potential benefits outweigh the known and potential risks of a Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine booster dose administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series for use in:

  • individuals 65 years of age and older, and
  • individuals at high risk of severe COVID-19

The panel voted: 18 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstain

Even outside of the school, medical, and employment situations… The CDC does random sampled questionnaires with respect to vaccinations. This is not a new process, they’ve done so for other vaccinations as well for many years.

I actually received one of their surveys myself a couple weeks ago, specific to covid19 vaccination. It specifically asks about the individual and members of the household, including any children who are of eligible ages for the vaccinations.

Doesnt this just validate the concerns of those resistant to getting the vaccine? Unless you’ve already decided that Biden can do no wrong, this is exactly the manipulation of the drug approval process for political reasons that everyone was so terribly afraid Trump might potentially try. Except this isn’t potentially trying, it is actually doing.

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There are few corners that @scripta can’t round or crawfish his/her/it’s way out of. :smile:

He’s like a previous President in that way. :rofl:

Tonight’s local news very clearly put a third group on that list - employees at high risk of exposure. I guess they had earlier, too

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/fda-committee-meets-friday-to-decide-on-covid-boosters/507-07fec90b-d5ba-47bd-ad9a-26183a0fa673

Then, in an 18-0 vote, it endorsed extra shots for people 65 and older and those at risk of serious disease. Panel members also agreed that health workers and others who run a high risk of being exposed to the virus on the job should get boosters, too.

I find it hard to believe the headlines would omit such a subjective factor that could arguable include just about anyone. So what is correct?

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High risk of exposure?

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Well, the way the question was phrased, it’s hard to say no.

Would you authorize spending on a fire crew next to a crowd doused with gasoline, surrounded with open flame torches and open fire pits? /s

And it’s hard to sell my PFE until until Uncle Joe collapses, nods off, or in an uncoverable-up way, goes off the reservation.

The vaccines are perfectly safe and effective, but we don’t want you to know how perfectly … Why is that?

Lol… right…

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You realize who the successor would be, right?

Whadda ya do when your scientific advisors dont support what you want them to support? Obviously, you simply ignore your advisors.

I guess “following the science” and “listening to the experts” is now optional?

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You’re on-point, factual responses are, as usual, … well, they are as usual.