Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

The homeless are exempt. Imagine how much the “homeless” population is going to swell. Won’t be long before we see homeless people wearing Gucci loafers and driving S class Mercs. :slight_smile:

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528990-arizona-legislature-shuts-down-after-giuliani-tests-positive

Well, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that poor financial decisions may lead to homelessness. :slight_smile:

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China’s newest Covid virus …

Are masks really the difference between the outcomes in the EU/US vs Asia? Scientists question the magnitude of this difference and see possible genetic and previous related viral exposures as mitigating factors.

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Coming to a congress near you. How likely is something like this going to be used to bail out stronghold states/cities?

https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/07/asia/india-mystery-illness-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

Noted in passing

Dr. Fauci certainly believes so. I noticed on TV that he was wearing two masks at the same time. It was of interest to me since I prior had had the same idea.

Fauci was wearing an N95 mask or the equivalent, which was barely visible, beneath and covered nearly completely by a surgical mask. I have both KN-95 masks and surgical masks available to me, and I will follow Fauci’s lead on this. For the eyeglasses piece, since I don’t wear them normally, I’m thinking of using my safety glasses with the side shields.

If it’s good enough for Fauci it’s good enough for me! :grinning:

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Thanks to Rudy’s “Spread the virus” tour.

It’s true that the majority of people who get the virus don’t die and many don’t even get extremely sick, but a lot do get sick and a lot do die, and it’s the anti-maskers who are responsible for most of this.

No, it’s thanks to an abundance of caution (ie, kneejerk panicking). The actual risk posed from continuing business as usual is pretty minimal, not materially different than the risk the state legislature face from being open in the first place.

It’s all for show. “Look at what bad things those evil men have caused now!”

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“Show” is pretty much the Democrat playbook in its entirety. Virtue signalling and political correctness are what they do best. Trouble is, those things are about all they do. Their expertise is in dictating to productive people what they must think and how they should live.

Democrats are long on such stuff and quite short on actual accomplishments. One exception: they are skilled when it comes to giving away other people’s money.

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“After testing positive for Covid-19, Rudy Giuliani filed a lawsuit with the lab demanding the results be overturned.”

From George Takei

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A large minority (~20% or so) of the “mild” infections have been resulting in medium (months and months) to long term problems, ranging from nuisance (aches and pains) to debilitating (mental effects) to increased morbidity (heart damage, lung damage, and/or other chronic inflammation).

The long term effects don’t even always show up immediately, so they don’t have accurate counts of the prevalence.

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Humor aside, just yesterday an NFL team faced 7 positive tests from players, putting their game in question - until those 7 tests were established to be false positives due to lab error. And that’s a dedicated lab they’re paying lots of money to process these tests daily. I can only imagine how often this happens with general testing…

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That’s because the N95 mask is a respirator – it reduces your chances of inhaling bad things, but it doesn’t slow or filter your exhalation. In terms of social protection, it alone is inappropriate as a face covering (the plastic face shields are also pretty stupid and ineffective).

The surgical mask slows down and filters vapor in both directions. So the N95 is to save you from everyone else (better than a surgical mask by itself), and the surgical is to save everyone else from you.

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Are you sure you aren’t confused with the n95s with easy exhale valves? Those are one-way. AFAIK, other n95s with a good seal should work in both directions.

I’ve personally used (or more accurately re-used after using in attic for fiberglass) an n95 under a cloth covering (I also taped the valve shut) only a couple times at higher- risk indoor spaces – it’s more about reducing any risks when I visit more vulnerable people outdoors and even risks to coworkers/ their families, not just a personal risk assessment. You still aren’t supposed to “just use” n95s, so under the cloth it’s merely noticeable and no way to know it’s not one of those kn95s. That seems like a likely reason he’d wear one under a standard face covering.

By the end of the next administration, a compliant (or patriotic according to some people :smiley_cat: ) public may be wearing Hannibal Lecter masks.

I didn’t have time to mention the long-term effects but, yup, they are a great danger also even if you’ve had a mild case of corona.