Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

" Does anyone here wear protective goggles like these when you are in public? I do but I never see anyone else wearing them. If the Covid virus is spread by an aerosol fog your eyes’ mucous membrane would be a way for it to enter your body."

I have never seen it. It looks like something worn in Chemistry class.

I would much rather wear my mask + a face shield (which I have done a few times) than those goggles.

I would much rather wear my mask + a face shield (which I have done a few times) than those goggles.

As always, security is inversely proportional to convenience. A face shield would certainly help against spitlets on a ballistic trajectory but a fog would get around it. Medical personnel do wear face shields when they are examining people so they do help.

It is odd that no one discusses eye protection for the general public. I wonder how much ordinary eyeglasses help?

Wouldnt a basic swim/diving mask be more effective? Or some styles of swim goggles (most would be too hard to see out of)?

I’m just dumbfounded how some people wear those small pieces of pexiglass a couple inches away from their face (and nothing else) and think they’re “doing their part” and “taking it seriously”. I get wearing both a mask and face shield, if you feel the need. But just a open shield? Might as well just walk around carrying an umbrella.

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There’s some “normal” sunglasses that almost make a seal in order to block the light coming in from the sides. Seems like someone could go with those (or slightly modify).

Goggles or other eye protection really seems extreme. One would hope eye exposure would be smaller viral loads and better outcomes (like imperfect face coverings are supposed to decrease viral load when exposed), but it’s probably impossible to know for sure.

At the point you’re going with eye protection, it probably is more productive to just limit unnecessary exposure more overall, instead.

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So does that mean that other vaccines made on the same production lines like those against the flu, measles, smallpox, DPT, will not be produced?

For weeks, the U.S. had been negotiating with Pfizer to secure additional vaccine doses on top of the original 100 million doses that the U.S. had locked in. Last week, Pfizer said it had struck a deal to supply an additional 100 million doses to the U.S by July.

The Times, citing people familiar with the negotiations, reported that as part of the deal, the U.S. government agreed to invoke the Defense Production Act to “help Pfizer get better access to around nine specialized products it needs to make the vaccine.”

Wait a minute. The headline states Biden will invoke the DPA. But the article itself says the current government has already made an agreement to do so.

Really? We’re giving Biden credit before he’s even sworn in, for a deal made before he’s sworn in, while conspicuously excluding Trump from the report altogether in favor of merely referencing ‘the US government’?

Can you sit your blind hate aside for a second, and admit this “reporting” shows a very clear, very blatant bias?

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This isnt the politic thread, the two things are separate. President Elect Biden’s intent to use the DPA to boost vaccine production levels is relevant all on its own for US response going forward, as he is inaugurated in a couple weeks.

(What you quoted also does not say it was already used, just that it was promised to be used in some capacity in the future, specifically only in respect to pfizer supplies. But the article wasn’t about any of the current admin’s inactions. Giving relevant background is the opposite of “blatant bias”. NOT reporting that it was already agreed to be invoked in a related circumstance would have been bias.)

I guess it was too optimistic to think you might set aside your hatred for a second. I should know better.

Yes, it’s merely saying that Biden is going to follow what ‘the government’ has already agreed to do. Except it does somersaults to avoid saying it, since that would be heresy. Obviously it needs to be pimped as Biden’s own initiative.

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It mentions supplies. Good question though, article doesn’t give specifics.

Probably complicated to sort out not impacting other medicines, but some of the supplies probably go into other products too, or the chemicals could be made where other chemicals are currently.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-population-growth-smallest-120-years-74862788

According them, they also didn’t export the virus until 2020. :unamused:

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You got me!

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Next, he’ll get Nobel Peach Prize on the come. Now where have I seen that before …

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Trump crowing he was “nominated” for the “Noble Priest Prize”?

This seems pretty off topic though…

I was unaware of that award. However, the AMA and APA have apparently awarded President Trump a prize for finding a way to identify deranged people, and keeping them so focused on him that they don’t harm themselves, others, or the planet, as might ordinarily occur. The Sierra Club has taken note as well, and are circularly debating creating an award for President Trump.

Oh, okay.

The MSM treats him with kid gloves, like always, and correct the transcripts and don’t point out his severe speech difficulties from cognitive failure, so I didn’t find a direct link to the source (not willing to scan through the whole rally…). It’s strange how Biden has the gaffe reputation.

But here’s the excerpt of Donald Prump taking about the noble priest prize:

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Thanks for providing the proof of the AMA and APA awards. :smile:

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