Does the coronavirus merit investment, or personal, concern or consideration?

Yep. Flip side is aerosols is a much bigger deal, not just large droplets that immediately fall to surfaces. (Basically everything indoors).

Yeah, it was several comments before where Biden’s policies for the new admin that is starting shortly resulted in a TDS comment “But what about Trump, he said he might do something similar. Praise him for the empty promises rather than referencing relevant policy expectations going forward!”

Yeah, except no. The comment was about how Biden was being praised for doing something that, at this point, is just an empty promise. But only after the government, which he is not part of yet, had already made an actual agreement to do that exact same something.

You can disagree with me all you want, but do not make stuff up to justify your hate.

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Around here, funeral home workers have been among the first to get vaccinated.

Not quite sure what to think of that message…

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Yeah, there’s no room for them to get sick with record numbers of deaths. We should also have the anti maskers take over the digging. But it’s probably all done with heavy equipment here and can’t have unskilled labor so it.

Vaccines for me and not for thee, the ruling class edition. First the young low-risk politicians, and now their servants get priority.

I know most of our politicians are expendable, but apparently their staff is now also “critical” to continuing the ongoing (non-functioning) of government.

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??? Of course they are… the congress members are also very old and the vaccines aren’t 100% effective…

The old ones would get it under the current priorities without any special treatment, unless of course they hail from states like CA,MA,OH,CO… where young low risk prisoners or homeless people get priority over the elderly.

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Vaccine does not end mitigation, the spread is out of control. It will take time to get enough vaccines and otherwise pull the numbers down.

The vaccine is not 100% effective…

Yes, most would see value in Congress not being ill or dead.

Well, I don’t know about dead, but somewhere around 80-90% of the public think they do a terrible job so if they had to do nothing and hide in their basement for a whole campaign session, would it really make any difference?

Besides, the article isn’t about Congress, although it applies similarly, but instead to their staff. If there’s any job that could be done remotely, as our civil war thread shows, it’s that you can argue about politics online just fine without showing up in person. I guess it’s harder to make untraceable back room deals and take bribes if you’re not meeting with people in person however…

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Yes, at the least it is expensive to run a special election. Where’s your attempt at fiscal conservatism?

The total number appears to be under-reported, you can find charts elsewhere (including a link posted earlier). The total went from 1M to 2M in 3 days, then just hung there. Could be a holiday slow-down (fewer staff? I dunno). I was estimating 300K/day would be 2.5-3 years to 80%, but I was also thinking it’s having a slow start and will pick up the pace. I forgot about the second dose though.

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Dr. G.E. Ghali, of LSU Health Shreveport, told The Advocate that Letlow didn’t have any underlying health conditions that would have placed him at greater risk to COVID-19.

So a 41 year old politician died. Sure it’s a personal tragedy, but why would you prioritize him, if he were alive today in Congress, over some old person who was much more likely to die? 35-45 year olds have been some 1.5% of all US covid deaths, and I’m sure the vast majority of those had high risk conditions. Bad luck, but you have to go with the odds for good public policy.

Your talk about mitigating spread is misguided. Most spread needs to be contained through preventative measures now, not through vaccination (for which there is moderate evidence of reduction in transmission, but definitely not complete prevention of asymptomatic spread by vaccinated people who get the virus with no or only mild symptoms). Sure, once tons of people are vaccinated the spread will be much slower or even eliminated by herd immunity, but we’re talking about vaccine allocation in the meanwhile.

If you care about hospital capacity, surely the right thing to do initially is vaccinate the staff (who are often a bottleneck to care; if they get sick even if not at high risk of hospitalization themselves, usually aren’t available to work until they recover), and after that, the old and/or high risk people most likely to need to be hospitalized.

Is your costs-to-society-if-he-dies argument (special election) one that should justify vaccination of otherwise-low-risk rich CEOs and other high paid professionals since their absence or death would incur a lot more economic disruption than an average pleb staying home sick for a few weeks? Certainly they are worth vastly more in terms of jobs/economic output/social benefit than the homeless, prisoners, or drug addicts some states are putting ahead of the elderly or the rich.

How much wealth would be lost if Elon Musk died of covid? Someone send that Texas boy to the front of the line.

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AZN vaccine approved in the UK.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-30/astra-oxford-covid-vaccine-gains-first-clearance-with-u-k-nod

I think this is a bit more pragmatism than science, since this is the vaccine the UK ordered lots of and they won’t be getting a ton of the PFE/MRNA ones any time soon. This is also the one that had the weird half dosing screwup, so if it were me, I might want a little more proof if I was choosing between the AZN one and the others. But they’re not choosing and it’s clearly better than nothing and things are bad in the UK now esp London area.

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Wuhan is safer than the US. Thanks Trump! By far, Trump’s response to the crisis is the worst in the world. He made it much, much worse and is continuing to do so. Trump has actively sought to cripple the US healthcare system, and then blame everyone else.

The contrast between his homeland and his adopted home is stark, the English teacher said. Although he endured more than 70 days of strict lockdown, that at times made him feel almost “imprisoned,” being shuttered indoors was a sacrifice that has paid off, he said.
Now, Wuhan is “one of the safest places in the world,” he added.

Well, as long as you say that, maybe Wuhan is pretty safe. Because if you said it was risky from the virus, you’d be disappeared and thrown in a hole somewhere for “provoking trouble” for the CCP.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-journalist/china-jails-citizen-journalist-for-four-years-over-wuhan-virus-reporting-idUSKBN2920EI

If anything, their actions during this pandemic should make it 100% clear not to trust anything from China, whether that’s their virus reporting to the WHO or their milk or pet food contaminated with deadly additives to trick some of the foreign tests.

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