The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people. “We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.” OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica. “ And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said. “Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.” “What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic. It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.” He said at the same time, the company is seeing an “uptick” in disability claims, saying at first it was short-term disability claims, and now the increase is in long-term disability claims
According to your beliefs, feel free to blame this on
(referring now to the title of this thread and xerty’s post just above)
Does the coronavirus merit investment . . . . . concern
So if you have, for example, an annuity with this or that insurance company, with your returns (including return of principal) guaranteed solely by that company, perhaps worth taking a moment to check out how the pandemic might be impacting their bottom line.
With ivermectin, what sets it apart from all the other compounds tested, is the sheer number of randomized and observational controlled trials that have been performed to date. It is #1 among the “green box” compounds given it has been tested in 73 controlled trials which include an unheard-of 56,804 patients. Why unheard of? Because never in history has a medicine been so thoroughly tested, with such consistent positive results, yet led to a situation where governmental agencies in highly developed countries call for even more placebo-controlled trials to be done… and then slow walk to doing them. The ethics of giving a covid patient a placebo given this amount of supportive data are too miserable to contemplate
beyond the above 73 controlled trials supporting ivermectin, there are, in addition, numerous health ministries from around the world that deployed ivermectin in either the prevention or early treatment of COVID, among often very large populations. Each program’s report found that ivermectin use led to massive reductions in the need for hospitalization and/or death (Mexico City, Uttar Pradesh, Brazil, Misiones, La Pampas, Peru, Phillipines, and Japan - I will do a deeper dive on these in a later post). The program in the city of Itajai, Brazil is both the largest study of ivermectin in the world (data from nearly 200,000 patients was carefully collected over a 6 month period) and most impressive. They found that, despite the fact that the 120,000 patients who agreed to take ivermectin every 15 days were older, fatter, and sicker than the approximately 37,000 that did not…they went to hospital 67% less frequently, and died 70% less frequently… from all causes, not just COVID. The issue with ivermectin as a therapeutic in COVID… has NOTHING to do with the science.
Here’s that Brazilian paper with excellent results.
and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64”
Due to the fact they write policies for working employees of companies, of course their data is going to show significantly more deaths among working-age people.
And when term policies for younger people can be had for under $500/yr for $1-million coverage, the typical death rate is clearly really low and wouldnt require many additional deaths, in absolute terms, to create a significant percentage increase. A death count increase from 5 to 10 would be a 100% increase, even though those 5 additional deaths only represent 5% of total pandemic deaths. As shinobi said, this is primarily a reflection on the insurance company’s prospects as a business, not the pandemic.
It’s pretty damn misleading to claim that “it’s not elderly people who are dying” from the pandemic, when 90% of covid deaths are in fact people over the age of 50.
I’m also curious if they also have retiree policies that do cover older people who are lumped into the “working-age group coverage”, or if they really did break out only the 18-64 data. And what happens when they follow the CDC data breakdown, and break out age 50-65 from those under 50?
Yeah, it’s clearly older ppl that are dying most. I still thought it was interesting that the death rates were up so much, at least on a relative / statistical basis, for the rest of the adults at least from a life insurance perspective.
Can’t be too careful, the college administration edition
Last week, the CDC reported that weekly deaths in people age 18-29 decreased to zero from one in 5 million the week prior.
That’s lower than the number of deaths from car accidents, suicide and firearms in young people. So why are we imposing a kind of martial law on students to ever so slightly reduce the chance that they develop a mild illness?
Hotez says they tried to interest government officials in the vaccine, but they weren’t impressed.
"People were so fixated on innovation that nobody thought, ‘Hey, maybe we could use a low-cost, durable, easy-breezy vaccine that can vaccinate the whole world,’ " Hotez says
Hotez says that unlike the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, and the viral vector vaccine from Johnson & Johnson, protein subunit vaccines like CORBEVAX have a track record. So he and Bottazzi were relatively certain CORBEVAX would be safe and effective.
“And it’s cheap, a dollar, dollar fifty a dose,” Hotez says. “You’re not going to get less expensive than that.”
As Shinobi loves to say, “just follow the money!”. Why pay hundreds of millions to vaccinate the country, when you can choose to spend tens of billions?
Per multi-millionaire Doc Fauci, the FDA, the CDC, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, PB, the NYT, the LAST, every Democrat governor, every Democrat anything, it is perfectly safe and effective.
Naw, according to them the clinical trials were a little too small, so the very positive results should be dismissed as inconclusive, clearly making it far too dangerous to even consider.
Have you ever thought about the fact that all vaccines only cost a couple bucks per dose? The extra added to the price tag is to pay for all the posturing to “convince” someone to buy it.
Eat healthy, might be good for covid as well as the rest of your life. Common sense though, so don’t say it out loud.
Speaking of things that get you yelled at for no good reason, here’s one: suggesting Covid severity is linked to obesity and that healthy lifestyles are protective.
Now, finally—and uselessly since the worst of this pandemic is over—CNN is coming out this week saying that weight matters and losing weight helps one fight the virus off. But don’t worry, we still have the Times with an essay this week on why “diet culture is immoral.”
I mean, would it be more racist to say that racial correlations with obesity are genetic (admitting genes matter), or genetically linked to the same lack of impulse control that correlates with criminality? Inquiring minds don’t want you to know.
It would be racist if you keep insisting, but cannot prove the correlation. See the middle chart in this example – Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia. Only Asians truly stand out as not having as much an issue with obesity, and I believe it has more to do with the foods they eat (and don’t eat) vs other races/cultures. Lots more vegetables and less sugar in Asian cuisines.
Also almost 80% of adults in the US are considered overweight or obese (charts), so how do you square that with impulse control and criminality?
Apparently a certain SCOTUS justice about to rule on the merits of covid restrictions thinks it’s “over 100,000”. Not earning her “wise” moniker today.
This was a good general read and well sourced with examples of censorship by Facebook and academic journals or anything against the government vaccine narrative.
I hadn’t seen the case where they accepted a journal article and then refused to publish it.
Right, and going on 2 years into the pandemic, that would be something like 60 kids/week at any given time, not 100,000. Sonia must be watching too much MSNBC for her pandemic misinformation.
I presumed that the makers of Corbevax had already purchased one of Hunter’s incredibly laborious pieces of artwork for an appropriate price and that 10% had already been kicked up to the big guy.
