Investment impact of Russia Ukraine crisis

You mean Germany has built something since the Tigers? Look out Europe!

Are sure these were captured and didn’t fall off the back of the truck?

One sanctioned and no longer traded Russian company is offering to buy back their shares from stranded foreign investors… at $0.50 on the Ruble.

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A perfect example of capitalism - seeing a need and offering to fulfill that need for a price … and apparently without having to kick 10% back to the big guy, or 20% back to big government.

I’m hearing '80s echoes of win-win. :smile:

RTFA!

Wow! I didn’t realize that Hunter had gotten a job in Moscow. :rofl: I guess he’ll be able to pay his child support after all.

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Big developments in Russia. Here’s a thread with a lot of links. Who controls the nukes?

Edit. Not to worry, the US military is now safe for transgenders.

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their mercenaries were not being cooperative, but a coup appears to have been forestalled.

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The fog of war

There are way too many questions here to make any real determination as to what this means. It’s highly unlikely that PMC Wagner is making this move without getting something in return. What did Putin promise them to get them to turn around? Has Prigozhin, who was facing arrest prior to this, bought himself some kind of reprieve?

Then there’s the possibility that this is a ruse to buy time while the rest of Prigozhin’s forces catch up and get some rest. Even in modern times, long marches are not without their costs in fatigue and fuel. There are also rumors that PMC Wagner doesn’t have much night vision equipment. That could also play a role given darkness has set in over Russia (as of this writing). Is it possible the coup is still on but there’s some gamesmanship going on?

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With Putin, any reprieve from arrest would take the shape of a fall from a high-rise window.

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Very strange. Let the conspiracy theories begin. I agree that Prigozhin needs to stay away from multistory buildings with windows.

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LOL. That’s unlikely. I would think that if he actually wanted to pull this off, he could’ve moved his forces into place without anyone knowing. It’s more likely that dropping of the charges and letting him go is the ruse. Officially he’s forgiven, unofficially he’s most wanted.

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Or tea, or any food, or changing his underwear, or…
He’s a dead man walking.

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Hitler does Prighozin

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Prig releases video. Unspecified location but apparently after withdrawal. All is not forgiven.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prigozhin-says-hes-sorry-wagner-mercenaries-shot-down-russian-aircraft-but-the-military-might-not-forgive-them-for-killing-its-service-members/ar-AA1d44CK

Prigozhin says he’s sorry Wagner mercenaries shot down Russian aircraft, but the military might not forgive them for killing its service members

  • Wagner fighters downed several Russian military aircraft during their short-lived rebellion.
  • Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Monday that he regretted the engagements, which reportedly left pilots dead.
  • But it’s unclear if the Russian military is going to readily forgive the mercenaries for the bloodshed.
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Most sensible take I saw on this Russian rebellion thing, especially given its sudden start and equally sudden abortion, was that P was a double agent.

Charitably you might have something along the lines of “P takes western money to start a coup with assurances others will support the overthrow of Putin, then finds out hardly anyone does, and gives up”. More plausible is the above where he checks in with Putin first, Putin agrees to the fake coup to use it to expose any traitors in the government, and then let’s P off the hook and maybe he keeps the western payoff as well for his trouble.

Meanwhile, here’s Tucker on how we need to Protect Democracy, except in Ukraine where we need to end Democracy to win the war.

Democracy in Ukraine seems to be suspended by the world’s foremost democracy Advocate himself Field Marshal zielinski.

"If we win" he says “we’ll let people vote otherwise no you vote” and we feel like it because ultimately we’re completely in charge and make all the rules.

Your job is to obey or be punished.

That’s our version of self-government.

Self means me - I’m the government now.

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Least sensible. He’s an uber wealthy guy with his own private army, huge government contracts, and a close friend president.

Most plausible of what you wrote is if he did in fact check in with Putin first, but that wouldn’t require or warrant any “foreign” payments.

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Never ceases to amaze me how Putin lovers always find a way to spin the facts so their beloved leader appears as a shrewd, clever mastermind. The events of the past months and particularly last week exposed Putin as an autocrat that is losing grip on power within his circle of sycophants.

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Good recap. These independent journalists audited US spending in Ukraine, finding a huge payoff to Blackrock when we gave billions to pay off Ukraine sovereign debt.

Saving Democracy apparently means we support Ukraine’s government banning opposition parties, jailing journalists, and canceling free elections until the war is over.

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And, IIRC, shutting down all in-country media except for state sponsored/controlled media.

Would have been a grave mistake to not shut down all other media – Russia has a well-oiled propaganda machine.

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