The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

Now i get, it’s not okay to attack someone on this board, but safeties off for everyone else. I’m not particularly fond of either, but, well, the times, they are a changin. We’re off to find the LCD. :frowning:

ETA: I also can’t respond to each individually because I can’t post more than three replies in a row. To show you my respect, I’ve taken one of those three to respond to you. :sunny:

But it couldn’t save the witches of Salem. Fortunately, it fought the evil empire of communism in Russia. Sadly, it’s having a tough time doing the same on our shores. :frowning:

It was not the first attack, either. It was the first excuse to the 38th attack.

Why not, most democrats and socialists seem to believe every dream that anti-trumpers have as fact. Not just fact, but documented, registered and notarized facts.

Glad to see you’re hopping on board, and finally seeing the light. :sunny:

You mean like the never-trumpers conspiracy theories? Or like their attacks made up of whole cloth? Or like their documented, notarized, and double-triple-fact-checked accusations of planetary destruction?

I can only presume you’re posting this because it is in some realm of your mind an attack on President Trump. This judge was appointed by our past fierceless leader, and this sure looks like a way to suppress the vote. Democrats seem to be using this tactic more frequently since it is now obvious that the President Trump is going to win re-election. If you can’t discourage his voters, make it as difficult as possible for them to cast their vote. Next, we may see blank panthers wielding baseball bats at the front door. It would have to be baseball bats, because Socialists want to lock up all the guns that don’t belong to t̶h̶e̶m̶ the ruling class.

That’s bait headline too. I immediately thought “Good god, now they expect the Post Office to censor what they deliver!”

But it’s about a flier mailed by the post office itself. And the only issue is that the flier states certain mail-in voting rules - but the same language is being sent everywhere, despite different states having different rules. For once, the “false statements” are actual false information, not subjective opinions that some disagree with. I understand why this is an issue; it’s a nice attempt at informing the public, that was poorly executed . Despite the headline implying more ‘corruption’ by Trump.

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Trump wants Americans to pay for his defense in a rape-related defamation case

"In its latest shocking but not surprising move, the Department of Justice, funded by you, the American taxpayer, is now trying to intervene in journalist E. Jean Carroll’s defamation lawsuit against President Donald Trump. You may recall that last year he denied he had raped Carroll in the 1990s and said she was “not my type.”

Barr’s Justice Department inserting itself in a lawsuit about alleged personal misconduct by the president long before he took office is both the most egregious act in and logical conclusion of his campaign to remake the Justice Department into the president’s personal, taxpayer-funded legal service. Experts agree that the DOJ’s intervention here is unprecedented and suspect. But it is yet one more piece of the president’s plan to turn the federal government into the world’s largest Trump business.

When I served as a corruption prosecutor at the Justice Department under both Democratic and Republican administrations, the principle was drummed into me that, no matter what might be swirling around outside the department’s doors, any political influence on investigations or litigation decisions was unacceptable. That principle went out the window when Barr entered the building."

Who cares?

We, the people didn’t care about his obsession with women the first time he ran for office in 2016. Obviously, why should we care about this old news now?

What we do care about is President Trump winning this election Nov 3rd. His opponent lacks mental ability to attend to daily activities. Must less leading our country.

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So in other words, what you’re saying is…

We, the people didn’t care about [insert baseless accusation about Biden] the first time he was elected vice president, why should we care about this old news now?

What we do care about is kicking out the incompetent and corrupt failure currently in office and electing someone who had higher approval ratings and got more done the last time he was in office, and will help Make America Great Again.

While I don’t think treason is appropriate for the contact of the Trump campaign with various Russian operatives during the 2016 campaign, this argument seems fallacious.

Voters who were unduly influenced by the Russian efforts would fit more under the label of victims rather than accomplices. Only if they knew of the Russian interference and helped it, would they be considered accomplices, and not for the way they cast their vote but how they promoted the unduly influencing of others.

Put into business terms, if a merchant of cheap Chinese knockoffs on amazon used a third party to post fake reviews, customers who later bought the product based on the fake reviews would not be accomplices but defrauded victims. And that holds true regardless of the actual quality of the product sold.

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I agree. It was really an unforced error to send those mailers even in States that already have robust all mail voting systems. It sounded inevitable that the mistake would be corrected and those mailers not sent to confuse people in those States. But outside of potentially the USPS looking to sell more stamps from unnecessary ballot requests in those States, not much nefarious about the mailer itself.

WRONG!!!

You, Bendr, think I would “fall for” what you would like me to say.

You are allowed to say what you think & the same goes for me.
Don’t you try to put “words in my mouth”.

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What the hell is a “rape related defamation case”? Sounds like someone had to slip “rape” in there to trigger outrage, and to keep the “events when he wasn’t in office” claim from being blatantly fabricated.

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Oh, I agree it’s all fallacious. No one cares about accuracy, just about the source. The information should be all that matters, regardless of the source.

I’m assuming this means a counter suit where the plaintiff is the one accused of rape by the defendant and claims damage to their reputation (defamation).

I didn’t make any such insistence. YOU asked why no one was saying Obama committed treason.

There have been no comparable foreign entanglements with foreign adversaries, we are far in uncharted territory.

Trump would be miles closer (relatively) to the requirements for treason, but I made no such insistence that he has committed treason or that such has been proven.

Interesting proposal. Seems to make some logical sense. Not sure I like it or not.
Maybe I haven’t been paying attention but I haven’t heard of this idea before.

"These tax incentives have two problems.

First, they give the biggest reward to high earners. If a single earner in the top income-tax bracket contributes $1,000, he saves $370 in taxes. For a single earner in the 12% tax bracket, that $1,000 deduction is worth only $120.

In terms of simple fairness, it makes no sense to have the size of the incentive depend on earnings.

Second, until relatively recently, it was unclear whether the tax incentives actually encouraged people to save more. A study of Danish data appears to have resolved this question. It found that about 85% of people are “passive” savers who pay little attention to tax incentives; they adjust their spending to their take-home pay, and therefore their saving is very responsive to defaults such as auto-enrollment. Only 15% are “active” savers who would be responsive to tax subsidies; but they respond to subsidies by shifting their money across accounts rather than by altering their total saving. Thus, defaults such as auto-enrollment are more effective than tax incentives at increasing saving."

" The Biden proposal restructures the incentive by replacing the deduction with a tax credit, which is estimated to be 26%. Thus, low-wage workers would be rewarded more than under current law and those in the top brackets somewhat less."

Edit: I’ll say that it seems like currently the “Saver’s credit” covers the lower incomes. So they already get benefit, just not from the deduction. But it seems like a valid point that 20 percenters get a negligible benefit vs the higher tax brackets. From traditional retirement contributions, anyways.

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Trump says he gets along with ‘tougher,’ ‘meaner’ leaders

"…Trump “smears” democratic South Korea “time and time again” during their interviews, while often remarking about his relationships with autocrats like Erdogan, Russia’s Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un.

“He is the face of the United States to the world, and he has said, and there it is, ‘Hey look, I get along with these bad guys but not the good guys,’‘’ Woodward told Savannah Guthrie.”

For those who find it “inconceivable” for President Donald Trump to serve a second term, Wisconsin Democrats offered a star-packed live-streamed script reading of “The Princess Bride” to help Joe Biden’s campaign in the key battleground state.

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Maybe you aren’t now, but most of the “reports” (and numerous comments) that have been posted here have considered it a forgone conclusion.

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Yup. All the elites prefer Biden. That is a certainty. And stars are elites.

Never quite made it into elite territory personally, and my time is nearly up so not likely I ever will. Therefore I’m merely a deplorable Trump voter, a poor but honest know nothing just managing to scrape by. When they see me coming on the upper east side they all turn their backs and keep as much distance as possible. And that is unrelated to COVID-19.

We have several elites posting here, though. It’s nice having them around. They sort of class up this place with their endless Biden applause and unrelenting Trump defamation. Elites need to do that stuff, along with virtue signalling and the making of hate accusations. It’s how you can tell they are elite upper crusters.

538 forecast is back in a reasonable range, most favorable since July. (for those people that like to post polls every few days).

But 24% is still incredibly dangerous.

It’s pretty crazy that Texas is at 32% prediction chance for Biden (crazy that the state has shifted so much in the last 4 and even 2 years. It’s mostly the white with education category that has fled the defunct GOP, it is NOT primarily immigration that has driven the change). I doubt Biden will win Texas though. It won’t matter if Biden does win Texas, if Biden wins Texas that means there’ll already be a landslide. If he loses Texas, nationally could go either way.

At least in 2024 we might get rid of Cruz and Abbott. Too bad we’re stuck with Cornyn for 6 more years.

538 has previously noted that historically Texas under-polls the Democrat vote, so it’s not entirely impossible. (Cruz only got 50.9% in the 2018 general election, and white voters have continued to migrate out of the remnants of the GOP since then).

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