Since last summer, democrats have played this to deepen the divide, regardless of the lip service for so-called “unity”. Their definition of “unity” is “everyone agrees with us, either by choice or by force”.
Opposing views are heresy, and must be squashed.
Or review the actual case facts. These aren’t irregularities they were differences of a handful of votes out of hundreds of thousands manually processed in those precincts and in line with the previous elections – elections in which the two partisan members had no problem certifying.
“Irregularities” by definition means something is DIFFERENT than the regular. Not the exact same conditions in line with the previously accepted norm. That’s not an irregularity.
That these two people were highly pressured by Trump and his operatives to make a public joke of themselves to try to damage the nation is … well honestly not surprising, it’s what everyone expected.
If you believe he profits from suckers giving him money, why is that a problem? A fool and their money are soon parted. If it makes them happy in the process, let them live. Kudos to him for milking them.
That’s a fair concern. That being said, in 2000 there was really no clear winner until well into December. First we’re not that far along. It’s not been two weeks since the election results emerged clear enough to call a winner. We cannot have wasted that much time yet. Plus, unlike Bush or Gore teams, it’s not like if Biden is waiting on the lawsuit to act upon becoming the president-elect so I don’t think we’ll run into a repeat situation.
Or a lot of outlets just don’t cover every other angry uncle talking out of their asses like seems to be the case here (or more likely it’s just posturing to position himself better for a 2024 GOP victory).
If there is so much evidence, why is it not being presented in court? If the system is missing roughly 10 million votes, you’d think it not be very difficult to find verifiable evidence. And if factual evidence had been actually provided to the courts, I fully expected liberal outlets to cover such evidence as they attempt to find holes in it. Instead I read on Tuesday that the Georgia GOP Secretary of State just concluded an audit of Dominion voting machines and found no evidence of foul play. Why would he not find trace of fraud if it was missing millions of votes especially if the missing votes could mean the difference in GA?
Someone mentioned earlier a study that those who thought that the 2016 election was rigged by Russia now believe that the 2020 ones was unhackable. It’s interesting to see that the opposite seems to be true as well. Those who defended that the 2016 election could not have possibly been influenced by Russia are adamant that the 2020 election was rigged… See a pattern there maybe? 
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Trump directly called them;
“A person familiar with the matter said Trump reached out to the canvassers, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, on Tuesday evening after the revised vote to express gratitude for their support. Then, on Wednesday, Palmer and Hartmann signed affidavits saying they believe the county vote “should not be certified.””
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-targets-vote-certification-29da6aac9cc41e47f3095855e7af7031
Rudy live
Rudy standing up there right now making a very strong case for Trump, at least in Pennsylvania. Focus is on the dual standard for votes cast there.
This does make sense and might well withstand court challenge. Rudy is laying the situation out in a manner average people are able to understand. However:
I anticipate NONE of this will be carried or reported by the American mainstream media propaganda arm of the DNC. It does not at all fit their template.
The Trumpers Plan B was televised executions.
“New filings claim there was a Plan B the militiamen had drawn up, that involved a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.”
https://abc7chicago.com/amp/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-militia/8079861/
You mean authentic frontier gibberish?
Watching Rudy live right now. What I wrote earlier was in error. He is making a very cogent, VERY strong case for President Trump.
The corruption and fraud in the Democrat large cities is very evident. Democrats should be concerned about all this.
The lying American mainstream media will need to work extra hard to put all this to rest. It will take a bigger lie than I have heard so far.
Rudy is finishing up. He is now turning it over to Sidney Powell.
There’s a pretty steep difference between trying to influence votes, and changing/losing votes. That’s a tough parallel to draw. People are allowed to base their vote on whatever they chose to base it on (I’m sure there are some people who literally flip a coin). People are not allowed to alter the votes of others, even if they think those votes were cast based on the “wrong” information. There really isnt any hypocrisy or pattern.
What’s interesting in your comment is that those who were claiming 2016 was “rigged” by Russian influence, seem to be implying they should’ve been able to alter the votes that were cast, in order to achieve the “right” results. That speaks volumes all on it’s own.
Wow, this news conference is dy-no-mite!!
It is pretty clear now that President Trump actually DID win the election by quite a wide margin!!
2016 (and 2020) had foreign interference through disinformation campaigns, primarily through social media. 2016 (and 2020) has foreign interference through illegal foreign monetary contributions. Both of those are big problems and the foreign money is highly illegal.
The voting systems are all air-gapped and have a lot of manual paper trails and checks built in. (Which, incidentally, has a side effect of necessitating there will be a small amount of human error introduced in all the manual processes… like what so far appears to be the expected regularities in Detroit’s precincts. There may be irregularities, just AFAIK none have been shown yet…).
No one rational with even a minimum understanding of the process thought Russia “hacked” the results in 2016 or in 2020. 2020 is the most secure elections we have held.
Now, 2020 Russia is still involved with disinformation campaigns even after the election, around the many false fraud claims and the other baseless claims.
Sidney Powell live:
Dear Lord she is eviscerating the Biden “victory” in great detail and in real time!!
And all this is in ADDITION to the completely unrelated line of fraud outlined earlier by Rudy.
It all has its basis in the completely unbounded hatred of the cheaters for President Trump.
Dear Lord she is eviscerating the Biden “victory” in great detail and in real time!!
And all this is in ADDITION to the completely unrelated line of fraud outlined earlier by Rudy.
Not in a position to listen to it at the moment, but if it is anything at all like her round of radio and TV interviews this past week, then I think excitement is unwarranted.
I think all Biden supporters agree with this. The facts be damned. Fraud and corruption be damned. Election integrity does not matter. Biden is President-elect. Period.
And nothing else whatsoever matters.
I think all Biden supporters agree with this. The facts be damned. Fraud and corruption be damned. Biden is President-elect. Period.
And nothing else whatsoever matters.
If they had actual facts in their favor then some of them would actually have clear evidence shared by now so they could stop being ridiculed as conspiracy theorists.
You seem to be incapable of accepting the reality that most people dislike Trump enough to have come out in sufficient numbers to beat him at the polls.
But that is reality.
The fact that Trump had big campaign events is a total red herring when it is used to somehow discredit enthusiasm to “vote against him”. Especially when viewed through the lens of Trump getting slaughtered in early and absentee voting. (i.e. the exact people who would NOT attend campaign events)
You continue to cling to an appealing delusion, but reality is not in you favor, and honestly that you think a true word has crossed Guillianis’ lips during this ordeal is both sad and comical.
Found the coverage of the event that I could read rather than listen to…
Sounds like Sidney Powell is still spreading conspiracy theories about the software being created by Hugo Chavez.
It is insane that Trump followers believe this BS. And it speaks to him and his team having a very low opinion of them.
If they had anything to act on, there is just no way they would still be beating the drum for this ridiculous idea.
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This is a matter for court. And clearly court is where this is headed.
What is interesting is the dual pronged Democrat effort to cheat. When the Trump vote overwhelmed their first gambit, the second one kicked in.
Kudos to the Democrats in the realm of fraud. They are professionals beyond any question or doubt. And Trump appears not to have been prepared in advance for this very high level of cheating. So now he is faced with the task of putting things right very late in the process.
I really hope you can accept reality at some point here and stop entrenching yourself in conspiracy theories.
If something actually goes to court and is actually successful, then I can accept reality.
But the amount of total verifiable BS conspiracy theory that Trump and his legal team are spreading should really not be confidence inspiring for your hopes on this one.
EDIT:
A key “problem” in this discussion at the moment is that for whatever reason, you’re taking the outlandish claims of Trump’s legal team at face value as if they were true and actual evidence of something.
On the other hand, I know that Trump has ENORMOUS incentives to convolute the process at this point, and “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, or however the saying goes.
They need to show and prove.
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Agreed. As I said, this is a matter for court.
Flip that around and consider you, instead, might have this wrong. I will decide for myself what inspires my confidence. If you disagree with my decision, I’m good with that. I seldom agree with Democrats.
Flip that around and consider you, instead, might have this wrong. I will decide for myself what inspires my confidence. If you disagree with my decision, I’m good with that. I seldom agree with Democrats.
But I’m not the one believing in crazy conspiracy theories…