The ones that are good people are really old now but also wouldn’t be causing trouble.
The “good people on both sides” statement by Trump was absurd as it was referring to currently active klansmen that were engaged in violent activity.
Any racists not in their ~90s+ now in this world are likely actively choosing to be racists.
What a joke…
You misunderstand - I’d love to see those vandals forced to pay to restore the statues, only for the government to turn around and decide to remove what was just rebuilt. What better way to reinforce the whole “if you want something done, get it done the right way” lesson. But I disagree with you that anyone will be charged; virtually everyone knows that would only ignite a whole new round of uprisings.
Isnt that just a matter of perspective? It’s pretty patronizing to call those that disagree with you “misguided”. The North arguably was the aggressor in the Civil War, even if you (and I) think they had good reason to be. The South simply tried to walk away.
I thought America was to set the global standard, not be a follower?
Yes, Trump and his team got played by a bunch of teenage pop music fans, but he totally outsmarts ruthless world leaders.
Seeing as how random teenage k-pop fans are outsmarting Trump and his team, and Trump and his team are outsmart Putin and Xi etc, imagine how amazing the diplomatic results would be if we put some random teenage k-pop fans in charge of our diplomacy!
Does that sound reasonable?
That means we can do it better than anyone, not that we inherently must do the opposite of everyone else so that we are setting a standard.
Russia put a man in space, did we say “well, they put a person in space, so we can lead the world in not putting anyone in space”. Of course not.
Well, yeah. We worked on doing it ourselves. We didnt try to steal Russia’s blueprints.
Yes, it’s a matter of perspective.
If the Confederacy had won, it would have been seen as a patriotic battle for freedom against an oppressive United States.
However, the Confederacy lost. Slavery was also abolished in the United States. And that’s why instead the perspective that matters is that the rebels were traitors that fought to try to spread slavery to the new western states. The losers don’t get to write the history books. That’s just not how history works. If the Confederacy had a cause that was later seen as just rather than the main cause of “owning other people”, there would be some other leg to stand on to argue to revisit the issue.
I wasn’t calling anyone who disagrees with me “misguided”. The school texts and many teachers in the south were doing the misguiding. If you’re fed false information, you can be misguided. That’s not a knock on the person who got false information through no fault of their own. But everyone does have a personal responsibility if they cling to the false information rather than verify it and learn as they get older.
I dont understand how they “got played”. You really think they were supposed to vet each ticket registration that came in? It was an open signup sheet. Had they tried to screen the requests, you’d be chastizing them for trying to keep out the “undesirables” and using a bunch of big ugly words to describe the lowbrow tactic.
I think it’s a dick move by a bunch of people who seem to spend an awful lot of time obsessing over someone they claim to hate. But it was also brilliant, because there was no way to lose no matter what direction it went.
The campaign claimed they did, and they determined 300k+ were “legitimate”.
Your questions about making themselves look silly are better directed at the campaign that took a victory lap claiming they’d exceed capacity and have tens of thousands in overflow before the “rally”
You’re really going to cite the campaign’s account of what did or didnt happen? 
The Trump Campaign itself insisted they verified things themselves.
https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1274726956391686148
So they must be highly, highly incompetent.
You need to stop watching propaganda and take a few moments to think for yourself. You have failed to make an incredibly important distinction between history and monuments. We create monuments to HONOR great people who have done great things. We do not have any statues to Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, etc (not that I know of anyway). We probably don’t have statues of the British monarchs in the US (except for maybe in museums and private collections). Is that refusal of history? No, it is not. History is in the books, and nobody will ever forget the Civil War, with or without the statues of the enemy generals. The point is that they do not and never had deserved to be praised by statues in the first place.
Graveyards IMO should be left alone as that’s private property, not public, but this was all in shinobi’s head anyway.
Let’s be honest, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Pretty sure I learned from some documentary I can’t recall now that there was a whole lot of stealing going on between USA and USSR, specifically in space tech (among other things obv).
The real success of the space program was the cooperation that followed.
The race to the moon was a nice “competition”, but then we planted a flag, returned a couple times, and haven’t been back since…
The shuttle was the US’s awesome but terrible idea (and russia did try and fail to copy it, just like they tried and failed spectacularly to compete with the saturn V before ). Aside from looking cool, many see the “glider” as just a terrible frankenstein of an idea and that’s why the shuttles broke up. The other main critic complaint is that it consumed so much of NASA’s budget (due to the already mentioned terrible idea complications) for so long that it hobbled other NASA projects.
But the end product of the space program was international cooperation, ending up with the US/NASA leading. We had the Apollo-Soyuz test project and the Shuttle-Mir project, followed with the crowning achievement of the ISS. It’s pretty unlikely we get anything similar to the ISS again anytime soon. Probably why so many people are rightly trying to keep the ISS on life support. The ISS is also a pretty big symbol of the USA’s formerly unchallenged world leadership position that has eroded quite a bit since.
/me still mad Covid wrecked plans to see the long-planned/long-delayed crewed SpaceX launch. (Saw 4 of the last 5 shuttle launches and the Falcon Heavy test launch in person)
That is fair. But it is unfair to cast aside the temporal aspect I cited . . . if that is what you are doing. Be reminded I said these things would take place by the end of this century. That is 80 years into the future! I was making a prediction based upon my experience and based upon what I witness coming to pass today.
Whom to blame?
First of all, socialism/Marxism/communism are much easier than freedom, liberty, capitalism, and the need to take individual responsibility. We have been at odds, and too often at war of one sort or another, with the former for a really long time. There was the cold war, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, the Bay of Pigs, and God only knows how many additional countless skirmishes and incidents, e.g., Grenada.
But the “big enchilada” of socialism/Marxism/communism for many years was the USSR, the Soviet Union. When President Reagan finally brought that evil to a close, without firing a shot, I was hopeful . . . and very stupid. I failed to grasp how powerful was the concept of something for nothing, of forced wealth redistribution, of being able to get by on the back of another person’s toil and sweat. Reagan did understand a lot about socialism/Marxism/communism; he had studied it and had thought a great deal about its dangers and threat to our country. He knew those ideologies, which never made any country great, could bring us down.
I mention the above because I do not want anyone to think I’m blaming President Reagan, whom I admired greatly. Nor would it be reasonable to expect Reagan to have reacted to the communist threat growing within America, when he faced a so much larger magnitude of that threat from without.
Of course American Presidents who followed Reagan had other fish to fry. They were nowhere near as sensitive to any communist threat regardless source; until President Trump. But we see today it might be too late; perhaps Trump did not burst onto the scene in time, so large has grown America’s internal socialist/Marxist/communist ideological thrust. But I’m not blaming Trump, either. He is doing the best he can.
A couple of posters here otherwise inclined to side with me are not going to like this next one bit. Sorry, but this is how I see things:
You cannot blame a single person, POTUS or otherwise. You obviously cannot blame the Democrat Party which is, after all, the home base for the current American leftward push. I blame today’s weak-kneed Republican Party. Republicans, far too many of them, fail to comprehend the threats from the left on their doorstep, staring them in the eye. Or else maybe they just don’t give a damn. They leave President Trump out there, fighting the leftists with everything he has, but completely alone. Republicans are such consummate wimps. They are disgusting, pathetic, and they richly deserve the fate awaiting them as we move forward. Republicans refuse to confront this reality: unopposed, the left will envelop us, suffocate us, and steal away our treasured rights and liberties, as now surely is happening right under their raised, haughty, and uncaring noses. To hell with them.
No idea who she is but not me. I was just thinking about turning high demand into an opportunity to make money, not preventing people looking to catch COVID-19 from getting their antibodies before we get a vaccine.
As I’ve already signalled, I stand resolutely by my prediction of graveyard flattening border to border by end of this century. But I want to offer another observation which I believe will come to pass by 2050:
I’ve never visited Mt. Rushmore, or any other South Dakota venue for that matter. I wish I had, and if you have been there to see it in person I envy your great good fortune. But the faces carved into that mountain are today detested by an increasingly large number of Americans.
Also, as a practical matter, the mountain itself contains a great many naturally occurring fissures and fractures in the stone, some large enough to allow entry of explosives. So I foresee that prior to 2050 some radical leftist, motivated by hate, will succeed in defacing one or more of Mt. Rushmore’s four images. The damage will be, obviously, irreparable.