The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 1)

I was just about to tangle with your ethnic Russian saga until your last, almost forgot.

My nephew did go for the mail-order-bride. He was coming off a divorce when he decided to go on the internet to check out a women. It is a very interesting story, but to long to tell here. After a short period of time we were invited to the wedding. He lived in Las Vegas so that was the easy part.

So the lady was a Dr in Russia, but that degree didn’t work out here. After having 2 children she applied to a medical school & recently got her degree. She is now a Psychologist & is very happy.

Her parents have visited several times, but she has a brother who cannot manage to come to the USA. I asked her why not. She never really explained. My thought is her parents can come but by leaving their son in Russia, for sure they will return.

Two compliments from shinobi and a no-contest from pattyb53 in one day? I’m so happy I could almost forget how the two of them frequently attack and name-call people or groups of people they don’t like or don’t agree with, instead of (or in addition to) attacking ideas.

Here’s a reminder that forum rules say criticize ideas, not people. I flagged patty’s post above for name calling bend3r (she actually did it twice, both completely unwarranted IMO). To my surprise it looks like the post has not been removed yet, even though it clearly violates forum rules.

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You’d think with Brad Parscale (head of the Trump Campaign) blaming protesters for physically blocking the entrances to the Tulsa event he and Fox News would have video of this and be airing it nonstop.

I’m not sure about the land of moskali drunks, but typically, most relatives can visit you on a tourist visa (up to 90 days) or a family visit B2 visa (for close relatives which lasts up to 6 months).

But anyone who looks like a risk to stay beyond that may be refused a visa. Since her parents are likely no longer of working age, they may be deemed less risky than her brother who could stay illegally and potentially take the job of a US citizen. Or it could have something to do with the particular circumstances of her brother.

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Surprise… I made a mistake & thought it was bend3r that flagged me. So you are the unmasked one. Actually I don’t think it was any of your business. :pouting_cat: I made amends to bend3r, so I guess all is ok.

Not too surprising unfortunately. You expect the staff to be monitored way more regularly than attendees and still apparently some attended while being positive (or became positive after attending, maybe contracting it from someone in the crowd).

So I think it’ll continue to be very difficult to guarantee safety of anyone attending those rallies currently (and honestly for the foreseeable future considering the trend for new cases and hospitalizations in some states). There’s a good reason you have to sign a waiver promising to not sue the campaign or any parties organizing those events as condition to attend. For these reasons, I’d expect any rallies to not be as attended as the candidates would like for a while.

Especially in States that currently have high number of new cases and hospitalizations, I’d really hope candidates ease up on rallies. If you imagine people from all across the State coming to attend and going back to their sometimes isolated communities, they could dramatically increase the spreading rate I’m afraid.

Thanks for the insight. My thoughts go with the risky factor of her brother. She has made a visit back to Russian at least once. But she & husband have met up with family including brother in other countries. Early last year they all met up in Berlin for touring & visit.

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/503892-trump-refuses-to-say-if-he-slowed-down-coronavirus-testing?amp

Monday: “I deny… That thing I said!”

And… of course… Followed by a walk back of the denial…
Tuesday:

I don’t think you can guarantee anyone’s safety anywhere. It’s all about acceptible risk - and sometimes that risk will be realized.

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Where is Faux News’ and OAN’s coverage of the armed traitors trying to rebel against the government and trying to take over a state capitol? Treason is a pretty big deal.

You should know by now that there’s Trump the candidate, and Trump the President. One doesn’t speak for the other. :slight_smile:

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And we all know neither speaks for the country.

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WRONG! Both speak & work for our country, endless hours.
Whereas the socialist dems speak for Biden.

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Trump rally attendance: 6,200, ticket price: free.

Biden’s hosting a virtual rally: 120,000 paid admissions (and counting). ticket price: $25. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/us/politics/biden-trump-2020-fundraising.html

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That’s generous. That was the number of people in the building. How many hundred do you think were campaign staff? Media? Security?

This has nothing to do with your point. But in a time of massive food distributions, record unemployment, and continuous talk of the need for economic relief across the entire population, am I the only one who takes issue with campaign fundraising? This event alone is taking $3 million out of the hands of people, to use for TV commercials to convey the message that we need to get more money into the hands of people…

I suspect many of Biden’s supporters at the virtual rally haven’t been severely impacted by the lockdowns and layoffs. Mostly middle class, college educated, professional folks.

Dr. Fauci on the question of less testing or slowing testing:

My conclusion from Dr. Fauci’s statement: Trump is throwing red meat to his fringe base, and gaslighting some media outlets. Doesn’t seem proper to me on a subject as serious as the health of millions.

That sounds a bit like selective outrage to me. I understand that you may not like the idea of Biden raising this much in a single event from tons of supporters since you root for his opponent but latest data I’ve read shows that fundraising in May was similar between the two candidates ($52M for Trump vs $49M for Biden) May 2020 Fundraising data

Personally, I don’t have a problem with voluntary small donations from grass root voters. In fact, I’d sooner forbid any other kind of donations (especially corporations and lobbying groups to shady PACs) than small <$50 donations by individuals who can spare the money.

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