The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 2)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/14-republicans-voted-against-juneteenth-005629091.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

One of the Reps said: “However, naming this day ‘national independence day’ will create confusion and push Americans to pick one of those two days as their independence day based on their racial identity,” Given he’s a white guy, he seems to be saying that white people pick holidays based on their racial identity.

And why would they have to pick only one holiday? No one else does.

(This Rep. voted against the Stolen Valor Act, against the Undetectable Firearms Act, against a measure to give Jack Nicklaus a gold medal, against US sanctions on Iran, and against sanctions on North Korea. He was the sole no vote against the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019. On April 23, 2020, Massie was one of five House members to vote against the Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care Enhancement Act, which added $320 billion of funding for the Paycheck Protection Program. Trump signed the bill into law the next day.

In July 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, Massie argued against face mask mandates and compulsory vaccinations.]

No, he is saying that two national independence days promotes the notion of there being two nations. It’s divisive, promoting the opposite of assimilation - America isn’t my country, I just live on the same land. I’m all for diverse holidays, but one nation has one independence day.

Having a different opinion is not “hating” anything. There’s only one attitude driven by hate in all this, and it is coming from you, Argyll.

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I think something like “Freedom Day” would make more sense than “National Independent Day”.
Or just
 “Juneteenth” with the specific cultural history that name carries.

Juneteenth is about freedom from slavery, not independence as a nation.

That said – some of your “voted against” picks are headscratchers if you think they smear the guy otherwise.

I would probably vote against the Stolen Valor Act, as well. Fraud is fraud. Committing fraud in the form of pretending to be a veteran to defraud people of money doesn’t strike me as something that should be treated as a special form of fraud that needs to be specifically guarded against with its own law.

Unless you’re bringing that up just to say that he wasn’t “a republicans republican” or something.

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You already posted a link about this story. We already pointed out there are legitimate reasons to oppose it.

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It already has a name - Emancipation Day. Which would be perfectly fine for a new holiday.

I still think “Juneteenth” says “uneducated and illiterate”. I know the concept behind it kind of covers a long period of time rather than one specific date, but “Juneteenth” sounds more like you’re just too dumb to remember what day it actually happened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/juneteenth-is-set-to-become-a-federal-holiday-this-year-s-celebrations-come-amid-a-culture-war/ar-AAL2wxN?li=BB141NW3

The day also drops into a culture war, as state legislatures attempt to ban school discussions of the long-lasting effects of slavery, systemic racism and critical race theory.

No, they are attempting to ban schools from teaching all the little white kids how they are terrible people, and teaching all the little minority kids that rules shouldnt apply to them because they deserve a free pass.

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OK, then “emancipation day” is certainly a viable counter-proposal to anyone who suggested “national independence day” which doesn’t really fit to begin with. (though wouldn’t “Emancipation Day” be the actual day that emancipation was declared by Lincoln, or some other date that already gets that or a similar label, rather than what Juneteenth itself represents?)

Though I don’t share your bias against “Juneteenth”. It is a name for the holiday with a specific history behind it that potentially loses context if you call it by another name.

No, they are attempting to ban schools from teaching all the little white kids how they are terrible people, and teaching all the little minority kids that rules shouldnt apply to them because they deserve a free pass.

Genuinely curious – are there actual examples of “little kids” being taught about critical race theory in school? Are there even clear examples of it being taught in middle or high school?

Any reference to racism in historical context: “CritIca1 rac3 the0ry!!! Damn libs!”

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Juneteenth - the real world impact is the Fed is going to vote to shut down or not for the “holiday” (I guess observed for this Friday or Monday, since June 19th is Sat). If so, it would just down all the banking system for a bank holiday on short notice. Hope you’ve got any wires already done.

Your responses like this are very telling. People resort to generic nonsensical insults to cover up the embarrassment of being unable to provide a relevant rebuttal.

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Hot asphalt will burn you? How inciteful.

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CRT means lots of different things (“equity”, “equality of outcomes”, “diversity and inclusion”, etc), but racially divisive and politically charged ideology are being taught in both public and private schools in many places.

One 11-year-old girl I know of came home [from school] crying and saying, ‘Why are white people so bad?’ I also know of a black kid who came home and was puzzled as why black people were better than everyone else,” he said.

Here are a few links on the extremes that have already occurred along these lines and what Critical Race Theory advocates have proposed -

introduction to the issues

Investigative series
https://www.city-journal.org/christopher-rufo-on-woke-education?wallit_nosession=1

School lessons in your area

Blowback by parents

And that’s without getting into how many magnet schools around the country are under attack or have given up their standards because too many kids of the wrong color keep passing their objective entrance exams (more Asians than whites, incidentally). There are very much real world consequences for all this Marxist nonsense.

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What is the point of this post in a politics thread? Why are you still posting blind links?

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Come on, Meed - why do you hate doctors, and how can you deny the science of how burns occur? :wink:

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Sounds like Critical Temperature Theory. Let’s ban it.

If kids are too hot or cold to live, their parents should have made enough money to obtain air conditioning. The ones without AC should just happily die. The kids didn’t get any advantages or disadvantages from their parents’ wealth. Stop trying to teach kids to hate themselves.

Only if more black kids are suffering burnt feet, since concrete is clearly racist. If it’s primarily white kids suffering burns, then they obviously deserved it. In fact, all the little white kids should be carrying the little black kids across the parking lot, then there would be no burn problem. I mean, everyone only wants justice and equality, right?

Stop trying to teach kids to hate themselves.

Of course not, they should be taught to blame their parents for what they lack. And strive to do better for their own children. Instead of being taught that it’s their classmate’s fault and there’s nothing they can do about it.

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When a kid dies from heat exhaustion, they don’t end up with “their own children”

As a modest proposal, I humbly suggest we celebrate Juneteenth on July 4th.

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