Who will join POTUS nominee Biden on the Democrat ticket as VP?

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The Corn poll results are in. Here is how Iowa voters voted:

  • Joe Biden: 8,143 (25%)

  • Pete Buttigieg: 5,892 (18%)

  • Elizabeth Warren: 5,064 (15%)

  • Kamala Harris: 3,700 (11%)

  • Bernie Sanders: 2,675 (8%)

  • Cory Booker: 1,219 (4%)

  • Tulsi Gabbard: 1,153 (3%)

  • Tom Steyer: 1,078 (3%)

  • Amy Klobuchar: 905 (3%)

  • Andrew Yang: 745 (2%)

  • Beto O’Rourke: 550 (2%)

  • Steve Bullock: 300 (1%)

  • John Delaney: 277 (1%)

  • Kirsten Gillibrand: 270 (1%)

  • Julián Castro: 264 (1%)

  • Marianne Williamson: 240 (1%)

  • Michael Bennet: 129 (0%)

  • Jay Inslee: 120 (0%)

  • John Hickenlooper: 115 (0%)

  • Tim Ryan: 70 (0%)

  • Joe Sestak: 69 (0%)

  • Wayne Messam: 66 (0%)

  • Bill de Blasio: 61 (0%)

  • Seth Moulton: 60 (0%)

My comment:

The top seven candidates are fine.

Am heartened to see Beto doing poorly. Iowans grow stuff in dirt. They do not eat dirt.

Happy Castro is doing poorly. I do not approve of his twin brother, who is also his campaign manager, having doxed the people he did. That today could result in someone being killed.

And Bill de Blasio is, of course, a joke. Am happy to see Iowans agree with me.

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I think I’d be a little excited, if I were one of those people who voted for someone towards the bottom of the list, to be able to say I alone was nearly 2% of a candidate’s entire vote tally. I’d probably try to hunt down the other 59 people, and start a club or something.

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These candidates have been crisscrossing Iowa for weeks! The corn poll offers a hint as to how Iowa folks are reacting so far.

Three weeks and two days from today, on Thursday September twelfth, comes the third all-important debate. It will be broadcast on ABC. There is a wrinkle:

It has not happened so far. But if too many candidates qualify for that Thursday session there will be a second debate night taking place on Friday the thirteenth of September!!!

I’m betting Marianne Williamson especially would like to avoid that second debate night, should it occur.:rofl:

Spooky stuff

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Screw Iowa. It’s so ridiculous that the first few states set the narrative.

I’m rooting for #2-6. And if we keep following the recent idiot-savant-repeat pattern, it’s gonna be Pete. Would be nice to have someone smart and eloquent leading the country again.

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Really it’s not that bad:

Iowa is fairly well split, so you get input from both sides.

New Hampshire, when I was young, was solidly Republican. No longer. Refugees from Massachusetts over the years have infected especially the southern portion of the state. Today things are fairly balanced between the two parties.

Only in South Carolina would I say there is a decided Republican tilt within the electorate. But SC has a significant black population and for Democrats it will be important to see how those folks vote in the Democrat primary. Democrats need a candidate able to command the black vote and seriously goose black turnout in the general. Without that, Democrats will lose.

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Would be even nicer if they had a brain … If they only had a brain, only had a brain. :thinking::crazy_face::stuck_out_tongue:

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Gotta vote for Honking Goose!!

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Pete is an intelligent person. AND he is a vet, too!!

Thing is, though, he is encountering real problems with black voters who are overwhelmingly Democrats. I do not think a Democrat nominee can win without strong backing from black Americans, similar to the support President Obama received. They will vote for Vice President Biden because he served alongside, and strongly supported, his friend President Obama.

Mayor Pete is another matter entirely for black Americans, and he has not so far won many of them over.

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That depends on your definition of “fairly”. I think you are implying it’s close to 50/50. However, the nation is not split 50/50 – the Democratic Party has ~45M members, while the GOP has ~33M (per wikipedia). Choosing the nominee is a party-specific process, so I think these polls are letting non-members steer the outcome.

Is he though? If it wasn’t for the media concentrating on something he could’ve handled better when he was a young inexperienced mayor, nobody would have any idea.

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Yeah, the media is pushing this rather hard. I’m not really sure why. They have their preferences and favorites. Consider what they did to papa Bush back in '92. He was a pretty good POTUS and they destroyed him that year; went after him relentlessly. So I dunno if they will ever let up on Mayor Pete and his problems with the blacks.

As for Iowa, don’t believe everything you read in Wikipedia. :grinning:

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Debate update:

OK, here’s the deal, ten candidates have now qualified to be on that debate stage. It’s the nine candidates I listed above, PLUS former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro. I had listed Castro above as being close. Well, he made it.

Now here’s the big one:

If only just one more candidate qualifies, the debate will SPLIT and it will occupy two nights . . . . including the night of Friday, September thirteenth. So of course you’re wondering: will Tulsi make it . . . or somebody else?

I dunno. It takes only one more participant to split the debate. Mr. Perez has decreed no more than ten candidates on that stage at one time. Period.

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Jay Inslee has dropped out of the race. Mr. Inslee is governor of the State of Washington. He did really poorly, as posted up thread, in the Iowa corn poll.

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For the first time since starting this thread I’m concerned about DNC favoritism. Prior, I though it was a level playing field.

The subject here is Tulsi. Currently she is off the campaign trail. She is in Indonesia on a two-week national guard training mission. Tulsi is a soldier.

Let’s face facts. During the last debate Tulsi seriously injured a key contender, Senator Harris. Harris is still attempting to recover, out on the campaign trail, from the beating Tulsi gave her. That could be behind the unfairness. I dunno.

You want details. I have details, all you want. Everything is laid out clearly in this blockbuster RCP article:

RCP lays bare the anti-Tulsi DNC bias

I do not know when Tulsi returns from her service. But an interesting and exciting dynamic will unfold during this upcoming seven days regardless. To wit:

Should Tulsi somehow qualify she will force a second debate night, something I’m betting Perez wishes to avoid. But if there is a second debate night, the participant split for each of the two nights will be decided exactly one week from today, as follows:

If more than 10 candidates qualify under the rules, the debate will take place over two nights. For the two-night scenario, ABC News in accordance with the DNC will hold a selection event on Aug. 29 to randomly assign the candidates to a night.

That passage was lifted from this explanatory article:

More September debate detail

Bottom line, and what I’m watching, is possibility Tulsi somehow crashes the party and then ends up being assigned to the same debate stage as Kamala. It’s a long shot. But it could happen! And the ensuing cat fight would be “must see TV”.

Tulsi would have a far better chance were she stateside campaigning and not in Indonesia serving her country. But it still could happen. And I’m betting Kamala is doing everything in her power to ensure Tulsi does NOT qualify!!

ETA

One more thought. It is clear from that article that Tulsi is ALREADY well ahead of several candidates who have qualified for the September stage(s). She is ahead, for example, of the dirt-eating Beto. So I see possibility that Tulsi could, even if she misses out in September, return to the stage in October.

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Well, today is the day . . . cutoff day for the September debate . . . midnight tonight ET actually.

Tulsi only just returned from her service in Indonesia yesterday. She is not gonna make it, I’m certain to the relief of Democrat party potentates. Tom Steyer, it appears, also will not make the cut off.

More and more articles, akin to the one I posted above about Tulsi, are now appearing. They reflect very poorly on the DNC, which it seems is attempting to deep six her campaign and her aspirations. When Tulsi took on and embarrassed Kamala, a DNC “chosen one”, she offended the DNC gods. She is now paying for that transgression.

So will Tulsi return to the stage in October and have the last laugh? It is possible. She is formidable. Stay tuned.

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I’m pretty sure it won’t happen, but why couldn’t they have 11 player’s on the debate? Like you, I’d sure like to see Tulsi on the stage against Kamala again. Good show is what I want to see. Of course, I don’t care for the whole lot.

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That includes the Leftist Silicon Valley monopolies. Last I heard Tulsi is suing Google for cutting off her ads right after the last debate when she generated a huge buzz.

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Update:

Senator Gillibrand has departed the playing field. She gave it her best shot, but there was insufficient support for her candidacy.

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I will be voting for the President. But Tulsi has a calm, measured, presidential demeanor. She is not some kind of nut case. Not at all. She does not eat dirt. She does not scream, or yell, or gesticulate uncontrollably. She is the class of the current Democrat field.

I believe she will be a political force to be reckoned with, if not now then in the future. It would be good at least to have her in the United States Senate. And if she replaced that nut job, Mazie Hirono, so much the better!

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I have selective vision.

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Bet you’re not a big fan of Tulsi, either. Oh, that’s right: you favor the dirt eater!!:rofl::rofl: