Who will join POTUS nominee Biden on the Democrat ticket as VP?

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What are you talking about… You yourself wrote:

People do not “decide” their sex (based on the anatomy of their reproductive system) – they “decide” their gender, based on traditional gender roles or, more applicable to your “they decide” stance – their own gender identity. So no, sex and gender are not synonyms for the purposes of your own usage.

And don’t say I’m putting words in your mouth – I’m only explaining how I read what you wrote and why I read it that way.

So I stand by what I said, letting people “decide” their gender (i.e., gender identity, because nobody “decides” their anatomy) has nothing to do with ignoring genetics or science.

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Does this count as on-topic, or maybe only after the elections? :slight_smile:

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1020

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. It’s as true today as it was 2000 years ago. Just look at the Trump dossier. They were facts, according to the FBI. Ha!

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1021

Glad to see that this remains a place to discuss the potential VP pick for Biden, and not for making up slams against him, or our current President.

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I’m not slamming Kamala here. Honest. Or Obama either.

I’m white. But I make a bit of common cause with American black people because our ancestors arrived here starting at roughly the same time, back in the 1600’s. Yes, of course I’m aware ancestors of today’s black Americans arrived as slaves and my ancestors did not. What could be more obvious? But the timing was the same, that is all I’m saying.

I’m not expert on black ancestry. But I think Dr. King’s ancestors were Americans like my own. I think the ancestors of a great many of today’s prominent black Americans were Americans . . . going way back. I’m thinking of people like Justice Thomas or Jesse Jackson or Reverend Sharpton. And there are countless others who are prominent. I’ve not checked to be certain. But I think their ancestry, along with millions of other less prominent black Americans, is American.

So here is what frosts my grits:

Why now do we have two successive “black” candidates for our highest offices who are not authentic American blacks? To wit:

That half of Obama that is American is not black. The half of Obama that is black is not, and never was, American!

Kamala’s ancestry is half Indian, from India, and half Jamaican, from Jamaica.

Neither Kamala nor Obama is an American black person with slave blood and American ancestry going way back. There are SO MANY authentic black Americans in this country . . . literally millions of them. Why not elevate one of those people?

I want to be crystal clear. Kamala is as much an American as I am. She was born here. That makes her an American. Period. End of discussion, and no challenge from me at all. Just am saying her heritage is not in line with most Americans who consider themselves black.

As for Obama, once again he is every bit as much an American as me, maybe more so since he served for eight years as our President and leader, which elevates him. Obama’s mom, now deceased, was an American. That is how he legitimately became an American. Period. No challenge.

But again, as compared with the overwhelming majority of today’s black Americans, Obama has no slave blood, no black American heritage. That is my only point. It is weird that these two “black” political leaders cannot point to any kind of long American black heritage. What are the odds of this happening?

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Thanks shinobi. This post is wonderful & very authentic.

I’ve listened to many articles about Kamala for quite some time. CA gal, big time!

I never really payed that much attention to what she had to say. I never was really interested in her race, but I took her as East Indian. She never looked Black, in my opinion.

Now she is a very famous, Black Women running for Vice President.

1024

Shocking!

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1025

She’s black enough the Democrats, although she wasn’t Biden’s first choice.

It remains to be seen how her colored past plays with the voters.

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Thinking more about this, my white ancestors who had already been here for 200 years at the time, fought and died in the Civil War to free black people enslaved in the south. My family right on back is a bunch of northerners.

I doubt they ever gave it much consideration, who knows. But I like to believe they would have thought it pretty cool for a descendant of one of those freed slaves to some day rise to the high position of President of the United States of America. I mean, something of that sort embodies what our country is all about, equality and opportunity for everyone.

So upon reflection I am sad that, so far at least, such a thing has not come to pass. Perhaps some day it will. I hope so.

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She is and that is something I view as quite important. During the debates Kamala spoke about having grown up in Oakland. I strongly approve of that. I fervently believe a POTUS or VPOTUS should have grown up here in the USA.

Exact location? You cannot pick and choose. Anywhere in the USA works for me . . . Oakland, Queens, or anywhere in between. Just so long as the formative, childhood years are spent here in this country. That is what is crucial and that is what was missing with Obama. You do not learn how to be POTUS by growing up in Indonesia. Period. And those lost early years can never be replaced or recovered. You gotta be here. And Kamala was here, so good on her!

It is highly likely Kamala is part black owing to the Jamaican portion of her ancestry. Years ago Africans were transported to Jamaica against their will and enslaved there, just as happened in the American south.

Upon reflection I have to concede Kamala might, indeed, have some slave blood. In her case, though, it is Jamaican slave blood and not American slave blood. Still, I failed to consider this when I wrote earlier. Her possession of slave blood increases her authenticity in my view. It is a good thing.

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1028

That was funny in a putting the cart before the ox kinda way. But hey she’s on top of that 25th amendment at least.

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I think the explanation made sense. He had boxed himself into needing to pick a woman of color as VP so there were only that many choices left. But I expected his first choice to have been Rice not Whitmer, based on prior relationship.

I think the calculation of doing no harm was probably correct. Choice of VP hardly ever mattered for the result of the election unless it was so bad that it hurt the ticket. I think Biden avoided that for the most part. They don’t have to be pals. Just look at Trump and Pence, they didn’t seem to me to fit well together but they’ve been working in step well once elected.

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1030

Is that a joke about a joke? Y’all do realize that The Babylon Bee is a humor site, like The Onion?

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1031

Yeah I realized it was in jest but I think that the second you’ve won the election, it would be prudent for the newly elected VP to start vetting their own potential VP since the constitution mandates that you nominate one if the position becomes vacant. If you had to take over the presidency in an emergency, you’d probably not want to have to do the vetting then with all the other things going on.

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I’m shocked! The media likes the Harris? Absolutely amazing.

They know who she is and that she won’t be a good president, when and if it is necessary for her to take over.

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1034

LOL. As if Republicans knew who would be a good president. They’re 0 for 2 in the last 20 years. Or is that 0 for 4, because they vote for bad ones and against good ones?

No, that’s not right. Both McCain and Romney may have been good presidents. Probably not as great as Obama, but couldn’t be worse than little George or little Donnie. So let’s just say 0 for 2 in terms of the ones with an actual presidential record.

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1035

With such a witty, insightful, articulate opinion, I suspect that you may be in high demand at … PS###. Of course, it can’t be too tiring. :wink:

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1036

What’s this now? Unpack it for me I’m out of the loop.

I do have some data to back up my claims:

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It was a low blow. replace PS### with Democrat ward cheerleader. My apologies to PS### :wink:

ETA - In 1868, wikipedia said that Lincoln was ranked second to last among presidents. Of course, that just shows how long the media has hated, and done hit pieces on Republicans.

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