Who will join POTUS nominee Biden on the Democrat ticket as VP?

Oh my God did I ever mess that up!! Never saw this coming, am totally taken by surprise, and I’m shocked:

First, I was right about there having been slavery on the island of Jamaica. And I was right that the slaves, there as here in the USA, were brought in from Africa. But I missed the most important angle.

Kamala’s ancestors were not Jamaican slaves, they were very wealthy slave OWNERS in Jamaica!! Good Lord how did the Democrats ever miss that one??!!

Anyway, with statues of slave owning confederates, and a few of slave owning Presidents like Washington and Jefferson, being torn down, how do you think today’s black Americans are gonna react to voting for the descendant of a slave owning family?

Kamala does have dark skin. But I was right that she has no American slave blood at all. Never did I imagine, though, that she might be descended from slave OWNING ancestors!!

He had Val Demings, a genuine black American woman. He had Susan Rice, another genuine black American woman all the way back. Both of those women would have made excellent VP candidates.

But no. Instead Biden chooses a woman who is not really black and whose ancestors owned black slaves! :crazy_face:

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You’re expectations are unrealistic. You omitted the key detail - “with statues of white slave-owning confederates and Presidents being torn down…”

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I’m unclear on that aspect. But it is entirely possible there is some white blood going back on her family tree in Jamaica. Jamaica was, after all, a British colony back then.

This would all have been on her dad’s side. Putting color aside, having slave owners back on one’s family tree is NOT a good look for any Democrat candidate in 2020. Hell, it’s not a good look for Republicans, either!! Not today. Not with everything that has been going on these last few months.

I’ve checked out CA Kamala for a few years.

When she is mentioned so often now of being a Black women running for VP. I say, “she’s got some White blood” mixed. (Oh boy, I’ll be called a Racist now)

It’s not so much that she has some white blood. Heck, Obama was HALF white. It’s not a big deal.

The kicker is that those white ancestors were rich SLAVE owners. That is what I missed. Never would have dreamed the Democrats would select a candidate with that ancestry . . . for anything no less for the #2 spot! And especially when they had several other really great contenders for the VP spot.

Trump needs shinobi, glitch & xerty. You guys could offer help to the Trump campaign.

A wealth of outside help that could tear down Biden/Harris before they can get started. :kissing_closed_eyes:

Yeah, you got me – my social network includes US citizens who immigrated from the former USSR, as well as three “Chinas” (mainland, HK, and Taiwan). Gives me additional insight into the good and the bad. Allows me to properly recognize the differences between soviet-style socialism/communism/marxism (bad) and Democratic Socialism (good) that works within a capitalistic system yet provides security for retirees, free or affordable childcare, free primary and secondary and affordable tertiary education, and universal and free healthcare.

Allows me to recognize the few but very significant jumps to conclusions that Milton Friedman made in the lecture (xerty posted the youtube link, maybe in the other thread if not in this one). It was an interesting lecture that made a few good points, but was very categorical in his descriptions of capitalism and socialism – either good or bad, no nuance. This is probably because at that time there were no good examples of Democratic Socialism at work. We have plenty now and I suspect he might have had a slightly different opinion.

Because none exists

And I suspect you’re full of prunes

I know one of those immigrants from Russia (maybe USSR) that is now in my family. My nephew actually met a gal on the computer & made that terrific trip to Russia. It was hard but he made it back out, with her & now they just had their 20th wedding anniversary.

She certainly has a different way of dealing with life, & my nephew lets her do as she wishes. A very uncontrolled life style.(IMO) She spends money like there is no end of it.

She was a Dr in Nevishorobisky (sp) & she decided to try to obtain a medical degree here. She made it & finally is a certified Physician here (MN).

I hope they are well prepared with finances when they are ready for retirement. Only time will tell.

No nuance, but @shinobi this one’s for you.

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No attention to detail by the “artist”. As drawn, that fork won’t fit in the electrical receptacle (just like socialism won’t fit in American society)… So it’s pretty much harmless as drawn. The mini-person is also too small to bend the tines of that metal fork. It would take group cooperation and effort, and after the tines are bent it would be something new and no longer functional as a fork (maybe no longer socialism). But at this point I’m reading too deeply into the low-effort cartoon.

OTOH, “social programs” is not really the same thing as socialism. We have several social programs, that have already been around for a long time.

Go take a fork and jam it into an electrical socket, and tell us how harmless it was… (We’ll patiently wait for you to get discharged from the hospital).

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What is the point of your story? I don’t think there are stereotypical money habits applicable to recent immigrants from Russia. I would expect 100% of the older people who lived through difficult times (like food shortages and rationing) in USSR to be savers. I wouldn’t expect anything special from people who had never experienced such difficulties, especially younger people or more recent immigrants. In my group there are are indiscriminate spenders like your relative, ultra savers like many of us fatwalleters and fragiledealers, and others who are somewhere in-between.

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Aren’t they? Because that’s what the right keeps trying to tell us. Everything with the word “social” is automatically socialism. Everything socialism is automatically communism/marxism and therefore BAD. But they keep ignoring this inconvenient truth about Social Security, Medicare, public education, and all the other things I listed earlier.

A giant fork that’s ~8-10ft tall (assuming the person in the comic is my height) out of thick stainless steel and the tines won’t line up with or fit into the giant electrical receptacle??? Sounds like the scenario design is idiot proof. We’ll need to find a bigger idiot to defeat it.

That they’re participatory programs funded by the contributions of their participants?

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We all know a true socialist wouldn’t let practical details like that get in the way of doing what he knows is right.

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Isnt that kind of the problem, and the point? More and more people are buying into what’s being sold, insisting they try harder and harder to make it “fit” anyways…

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That they’re a social contract forced on most employees and employers by the federal government, but almost everybody loves it, and those who don’t love it wouldn’t give it up anyway. And that it has worked for many decades.

Hilarious. Now replace the word “Socialism” with “Social Security,” “Medicare,” or “Public Education” and tell me if it still makes sense.