The 2020 USA POTUS election politics, the civil war, and the world war (Part 2)

But when looking at the big picture, such a result does nothing to validate the integrity of the election. The fact they “found” votes at all, after such previous scrutiney, should in itself cause concern.

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AZ audit outcome very dispiriting - But not in the way you might at first think

The AZ audit reporting for dummies is everywhere in the American mainstream media. It goes:

Trump is an even bigger loser than you thought. Biden picked up 300+ votes after months of insane and unnecessary checking of the vote!!

Such reporting is dispiriting because it is so patently specious. Those doing the reporting are counting on the stupidity of their audience. Here is reality:

It was an audit, not a recount. It took a really long time to complete because each ballot needed to be checked for validity, legitimacy, and authenticity. And here are the actual results of the audit, which you will find reported almost nowhere:

  • 3,981 voted despite registered AFTER the Oct 15 deadline.
  • 11,326 voted who were NOT on rolls on Nov 7 but WERE on Dec 4.
  • 18,000 voted and then were removed from rolls AFTER election.
  • 74,243 mail-in ballots w/ NO evidence of ever being sent.

In addition, the following also was found by the audit:

  1. Mail-in ballots voted from prior address 23,344
  2. More ballots returned by voter than received 9,041
  3. Voters who potentially voted in multiple counties 5,295
  4. Official results do not match who voted 3,432
  5. More duplicates than original ballots 2,592
  6. In-person voters who had moved outside county 2,382
  7. Voters who moved out of state prior to election 2,081

And much more. If you want to see the entire list of voting discrepancies, go here:

Link to report

The above is limited solely to Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix. I am certain there is even larger concern about the vote in Pima County, which includes heavily democrat Tucson.

Now bear in mind Biden “won” the state by less than 13,000 votes. Clearly with such voting irregularities that “victory” is called seriously into question.

Yet it cannot, in my view, be said with certainty that Trump won. And I am NOT saying that. This is certain:

The election outcome in Arizona was so close that, given the manifold voting irregularities, it is impossible at this point to know who actually won. That is the truth, but not anything you ever will hear reported by the Trump-hating American mainstream media.

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A quick read of those cyber security summaries is quite disappointing. Anyone with a username/ password for the voting software had full admin access, and various parties clearly purged lots of election data and network access logs shortly after it became clear the election results would be audited.

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It still validates that it’s a waste of time to count and recount 100s of times. Sure a few votes here and there were found. That always happens depending on how some unclear votes get counted or excluded. Usually the error comes from voters screwing up and the board of election trying to figure out whether their votes are legit or not. But the numbers have always been way lower than the margin of victory. Nothing like Bush vs. Gore in Florida back then.

Now you can certainly make the completely different point about whether the changes introduced to voting rules changed the outcome. We’ll never know to what extent it made a difference. That’s legitimate since it definitely influenced the turn out and participation with a lot more mail in ballots cast. But no manner of recount is gonna change the numbers and everyone is wasting their time and money doing so.

But that’s not fraud. Fraud means illegal behavior. If the courts did not invalidate the rules, including challenges leading up to the election, and challenges after the election, then the voting rules were legal, and so were the votes counted that followed the voting rules at the time of election.

To me, this is a bit like gerrymandering which Republicans especially have turned into an art. Even if the districting rules change the outcome of the balance of seats in House, Senate, and especially local legislatures, it’s not technically fraud since the districting was validated by the courts. It does not make the ballots cast are not fraudulent votes. Do you recount these because gerrymandering is unfair?

Finally, it does not seem like good strategy politically either IMO since it reconfirmed the margins of victory. The fact that a firm with no experience in voting recount and which was paid solely by the losing party in AZ found, after careful scrutiny, that Biden won by more votes than initially counted, reads like … after doing all they could to find fraud in their favor, they had to relent and admit that Biden won by even more.

As an independent, this comes out a bit like the Russian interference stuff from 2016. Yes it seems like something happened. No we won’t know how much it changed the outcome. And it should make us more vigilant about making sure such interference cannot happen again in the future. But the losing party is still sounding the same manner of sour grapes no matter what. We had 2+ years of this nonsense after 2016 where Dems were the bad losers. They accomplished very little of substance at the cost of taxpayer money. Now Republicans are taking a similar swing at it. 60+ lawsuits lost right after the election, audits of recounts left and right with nothing to show for. Brilliant.

But it did give the GOP a platform for themselves changing the voting laws in their favor for future elections. IMO that’s an admission of defeat in itself. Yeah we got beat by Dems who manipulated voting laws better than we did for 2020. But watch us now change the voting rules so we can win again in 2022+. Forget about actual democracy, just change the rules in your favor. Straight from Putin’s playbook. But that’s basically what our voting system seems to be about from now on. Control state legislatures, then gerrymander districts to the best that the courts will let you get away with, and then carefully edit the voting rules to disenfranchise voters not on your side. Done.

Violence perpetrated by Haitian illegals goes unreported by American mainstream media

In general, illegal immigrants from Central America are peaceful and non-confrontational. When our border patrol officers instruct then to do this or that, there is compliance.

The situation is very different with the male Haitian illegals. Many of them are insolent, violent, and resistant to instruction from our American officers. It is a new experience for our border patrol, accustomed as they are to dealing with Central Americans and not staffed at a level able to deal with the violent and unruly Haitians.

I have seen reports of this happening on the planes as Haitian men violently resist deportation. Here is an additional report of their violence on a bus:

Haitian Immigrants Take Over ICE Bus While Being Transported For Extradition And Fled

It is challenging to locate such reports as this because American mainstream media sources simply will not report such incidents which do not fit their heavily slanted, left wing, pro-Biden, template.

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OK, I was able to locate the report about just a single incident on a plane. The Haitians bit our officers!

Haitian deportees bit ICE agents on plane sending them out from Texas border

These are not the sorts of people decent Americans want in our country. But they are most certainly the sorts of people Biden is seeking to import into America and ship into red states, which is exactly what is happening.

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Satire Roundup.


This is really perverse logic. So if the Republicans design a system with better voter integrity; a system that had been used in every election prior to 2020, they are then manipulating the system in their favor?

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How is making it harder to vote, better voter integrity? What was wrong with 24h voting or drive-through voting for example? Not saying I’d go vote at 3 am but I don’t see how voter integrity is improved by limiting voting hours. As long as all normal hour rules are followed, that shouldn’t matter.

More poll watchers interference is also unnecessary and sounds very prone to intimidation tactics IMO. I could see advocating more scrutiny if there was proof of widespread fraud happening at polling stations but there’s been no evidence of it. It’s not like the 2020 election required less poll watchers than before so this is not a return to what was always done before. But the potential for voter intimidation or poll worker harassment certainly sounds increased to me. Especially in States in which mail-in ballots have nonsense restrictions so you have to go vote in person even if your polling station is full of unsavory poll watchers.

I’m going to admit to a bit of confusion on this one:

First, Pelosi has backtracked on her promise to bring hard infrastructure to a vote today, 27 September. She has re-set the vote for 30 September . . . . of course who really believes anything she promises!

But here is the part that confuses me:

This measure had bipartisan support when it passed in the Senate a while back. Naturally House Marxist radicals want to tie it to the massive $3.5T spend-a-rama. But not all House Democrats are that radical. The bill would get many House Democrat votes without the tie in.

It is the House Republicans that are confusing me. Are not some of them, as happened in the Senate, willing to support this hard infrastructure legislation? And would there not, between Democrat and Republican House votes, be enough votes to pass the legislation? This is what happened in the Senate.

Now if Pelosi is holding the measure hostage until her radical left, Marxist, members are satisfied . . well . . that is a pity. Or is it the House Republicans who are refusing en masse to support the measure? This is not clear to me. I dunno which it is. Or is it both?

Biden succeeds where Trump failed!

Credit to Biden on this. He finally got something right . . . an exception to his otherwise completely reliable record of incompetence.

Thanks to Biden’s administration the two Michaels are finally back home in Edmonton, where they belong. This after enduring several years of brutal Red Chinese confinement. The Reds released both men only after Meng Wanzhou was set free from detention in Canada and returned to China.

The Biden administration fixed this situation. Trump never could. I am happy the wrongful confinement of the two Michaels is finally at an end.

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There should be a lesson here for any admirers of Red China. Those two men were guilty only of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It cost them nearly three years of their lives!! Red China is a brutal, totalitarian, Marxist wasteland where freedom and liberty are despised and suppressed.

It is a sad reality indeed that Marxist Americans, Democrats all, do admire aspects of the Red Chinese human catastrophe, a stain on humanity itself. But you cannot fix stupid.

It’s no different than the covid relief bill a while back. They held hostage all the things that everyone agreed about, to stuff the bill with their unrelated pet projects and agendas. Then accuse Republicans for voting against the stuff they clearly had agreed with all along, while failing to mention the unrelated dealbreakers they insisted on including.

Pelosi knows there isnt a chance in hell of passing their massive spending initiative on it’s own. So once again they are holding America hostage to serve their own interests, denying the country stuff that we need in order to get a bunch of stuff they want (and others distinctly do not want).

I dunno. The thing is that Pelosi had promised to de-link the two bills. Now I acknowledge she is an unreliable liar. And she has already broken her promise to bring the hard infrastructure bill to a vote today. But she is promising a vote for Thursday, last day of this month.

I acknowledge she could be lying again. She can, after all, do and say anything she wants to because the hard left American mainstream media will never hold her to account. So maybe it’s like Lucy with the football and I’m just the dumbass trying to kick the ball.

Thing is, I still do not know Republican leader McCarthy’s stance on this. Is he whipping his Republican caucus to withhold votes across the board? That would force Pelosi to satisfy virtually all of her members in order to achieve passage.

One thing for certain: this is going to be an interesting week in Congress.

In Texas, unlike in the White House, they know the difference between reins and whips.

But Biden didn’t need any facts to get in the way of punishing the border agents since they just get in the way of his party’s newest voter base. Make ‘em pay, Joe.

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Marxist hat trick

California, Canada, and now in Germany; things are not looking good for lovers of freedom and liberty. :cry:

Voters want something for nothing and they believe the gravy train will go on forever. But as Mrs. Thatcher wisely warned us, socialism/Marxism can endure only until takers exhaust the supply of other people’s money.

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Dear Leader got some bad news today - his mentor’s Dreamer / DACA immigration benefits program was found to be illegal and they lost their appeal. As such, no new illegal immigrants, of which an increasing number of being rapidly imported, would be able to apply according to the court ruling.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/574057-biden-administration-moves-to-preserve-daca-after-court-ruling

But when you’re Dictator, you don’t care what the court says. Just like with the eviction ban, he’ll do what he likes by edict. As such, he issued a new Royal Decree that DACA benefits would continue anyway under some new unconstitutional program, and once that on gets struck down, he’ll either ignore it or make yet another new decree and keep it going.

The Biden administration on Monday announced plans to create a rule that would recreate the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policy after a Texas court found the Obama-era program unlawful

Do we even have a Republic these days when the judicial branch, even including the Supreme Court’s rulings, are so casually flaunted?

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Here’s how much pork is in the blowout spending bill

https://www.wsj.com/articles/3-5-trillion-is-a-phony-number-democrats-spending-bill-entitlements-joe-biden-11632425260
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the left demanding what they claim is $3.5 trillion over 10 years. The truth is that even that gargantuan number hides the real cost of their plans. The bills moving through committees are full of delayed starts, phony phase-outs, and cost shifting to states designed to fit $3.5 trillion into a 10-year budget window that can pass with a mere 51 Senate votes. Even if the bill shrinks to $2 trillion or less, the real costs will be far greater. Behold one of the greatest fiscal cons in history.

Extending the $3,000 to $3,600 per-child payments for a decade would cost roughly $1.1 trillion. Democrats have hidden the real cost by extending the allowance only through 2025.

delaying the phase-in of the much more expensive dental benefit to 2028. This “saves” $420 billion over 10 years, but the costs explode after that.

The press has reported almost none of this, which is how Democrats like it. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, which is far from a conservative outfit, pegs the real cost over a decade at $5 trillion to $5.5 trillion. Total U.S. annual GDP is about $23 trillion.

The U.S Chamber of Commerce has it right: “This reconciliation bill is effectively 100 bills in one representing every big government idea that’s never been able to pass in Congress,” Chamber President and CEO Suzanne Clark said. “The bill is an existential threat to America’s fragile economic recovery and future prosperity.

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10% for the Big Guy.

Hunter still hasn’t sold his stake in that billion dollar joint venture with the China state banks, one of Biden’s campaign promises.

Just to add, as if you thought private equity stakes were difficult to sell, he should just auction it off along with his latest artwork which seems to be finding some deep pocketed bidders ever since he got that marketing guy with lots of connections to the Chinese “art” world.

These damn fools who endorsed Democrats for Congress I have nothing to complain about now.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/politics/chamber-commerce-endorsing-democratic-freshmen/index.html

I am respectful of your post, xerty. However, it is important that we not lose sight of the overarching Democrat agenda by focusing too tightly on the details. And that agenda, that goal, is transition to Marxism.

They know America, as the leading capitalist nation, is the greatest existing threat to the worldwide Marxist movement. If they can take us down, and Democrats certainly are trying with everything they have, a freshly paved superhighway to worldwide Marxism is created. There is no more certain path to American oblivion than by spending us even more deeply into bankruptcy.

We should know by week’s end which way this is going to go. I don’t have a lot of hope. :sob:

From snake to National Security Advisor . . . but still a snake!

This loathsome individual is today one of Biden’s right hand men.

White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan figures prominently in a grand jury investigation run by Special Counsel John Durham into an alleged 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign scheme to use both the FBI and CIA to tar Donald Trump as a colluder with Russia, according to people familiar with the criminal probe, which they say has broadened into a conspiracy case.

Sullivan is facing scrutiny, sources say, over potentially false statements he made about his involvement in the effort, which continued after the election and into 2017. As a senior foreign policy adviser to Clinton, Sullivan spearheaded what was known inside her campaign as a “confidential project” to link Trump to the Kremlin through dubious email-server records provided to the agencies, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The grand jury’s indictment indicates that several people were involved in the alleged conspiracy to mislead the FBI and trigger an investigation of the Republican presidential candidate – including Sullivan, who was described by his campaign position but not identified by name.

The Clinton campaign project, these sources say, also involved compiling a “digital dossier” on Trump campaign officials – including Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, and Carter Page – that exploited highly sensitive, nonpublic Internet data related to their personal email communications and web browsing.

To mine the data, the Clinton campaign enlisted a team of Beltway computer contractors as well as university researchers with security clearance who often collaborate with the FBI and the intelligence community. They worked from a five-page campaign document called the “Trump Associates List.”

The tech group also pulled logs purportedly from servers for a Russian bank and Trump Tower, and the campaign provided the data to the FBI on two thumb drives, along with three “white papers” that claimed the data indicated the Trump campaign was secretly communicating with Moscow through a server in Trump Tower and the Alfa Bank in Russia. Based on the material, the FBI opened at least one investigation, adding to several others it had already initiated targeting the Trump campaign in the summer of 2016.

According to the sources, Durham also has found evidence Sussmann misled the CIA, another front in the scandal being reported here for the first time. In December 2016, the sources say Sussmann phoned Caroline Krass, the general counsel at the agency, and told her the same story about the supposed secret server – at the same time the CIA was compiling a national intelligence report that accused Putin of meddling in the election to help Trump win.

In July 2016, during the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, the CIA picked up Russian chatter about a Clinton foreign policy adviser who was trying to develop allegations to “vilify” Trump. The intercepts said Clinton herself had approved a “plan” to “stir up a scandal” against Trump by tying him to Putin. According to hand-written notes, then-CIA chief John Brennan warned President Barack Obama that Moscow had intercepted information about the “alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016, of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump.” That summer, Brennan had personally briefed Democrats, including then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, on rumors involving the Alfa Bank-Trump server, according to congressional reports. Reid fired off a letter to Comey demanding that the FBI do more to investigate Trump’s ties to Russia.

During that convention, Sullivan pitched TV news producers and anchors a story that Trump was conspiring with Putin to steal the election. CNN, ABC News, CBS News, and NBC News, as well as Chris Wallace of Fox News, all gave him airtime.

On the eve of the election, Sullivan claimed in a written campaign statement that Trump and the Russians had set up a ”secret hotline” through Alfa Bank, and he suggested “federal authorities” were investigating “this direct connection between Trump and Russia.” He portrayed the shocking discovery as the work of independent experts – “computer scientists” – without disclosing their attachment to the campaign.

“This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow,” Sullivan claimed.

Clinton teed up his statement in an Oct. 31, 2016, tweet, which quickly went viral. Also that day, Clinton tweeted, “It’s time for Trump to answer serious questions about his ties to Russia,” while attaching a meme that read: “Donald Trump has a secret server. It was set up to communicate privately with a Putin-tied Russian bank called Alfa Bank.”

It’s not immediately apparent if then-Vice President Joe Biden was briefed about the Alfa Bank story or other Trump-Russia rumors and investigations, and Biden has never been questioned about his own role in the investigation of Trump. But it was the former vice president who introduced the idea of prosecuting Trump’s national security adviser appointee, Flynn, under the Logan Act of 1799, a dead-letter statute that prohibits private citizens from interfering in U.S. foreign policy and which hasn’t been used to prosecute anyone in modern times. According to notes taken by then-FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok, who attended a Jan. 5, 2017, Oval Office meeting with Obama and Biden, in which Trump, Flynn and Russia were discussed, Biden raised the idea: “VP: Logan Act,” the notes read.

Although he’s not an attorney, Sullivan has argued in congressional testimony and elsewhere that Flynn violated the Logan Act, raising suspicions he may have put the idea in Biden’s head. Sullivan had advised the vice president before joining the Clinton campaign.

In a statement, Durham said his investigation is “ongoing.”

Biden Security Adviser Jake Sullivan tied to alleged 2016 Clinton scheme to co-opt the CIA and FBI to tar Trump

I certainly hope Durham indicts this snake.

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