When will you allow yourself to be vaccinated?

Ditto

There is no vaccine anywhere near to where I live. And forget 65. I can show 'em 75+ and at least three comorbidities. But fuggetaboutid:

There is no vaccine here and none in the offing, either. Biden has much higher priorities than folks like me. He knows we did not support him. The prisoners at Guantanamo are more important to him than us.

Because he canceled Trump’s plans?

It is pretty silly thing to be outraged though. The military would be happy if the few dozen people held without charges wouldn’t be disease vectors.

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No, because he approved vaccinations for them before American citizens who should be his top priority.

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Have those 40 prisoners only been there a couple days? For any of them to become infected, someone has to infect them. Vaccinating those prisoners would only be done for their own protection, especially when everyone they come in contact with will have already been vaccinated.

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Switzerland unimpressed with the AZN data so far, refusing to approve their vaccine. They are the ones who screwed up part of their sample with half dose first shots that turned out to work better than the full dose. France also questioned their data for over 65 age group, not recommending for them yet.

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AZN is the most traditional of all the vax. If avail here I would have taken AZN or JNJ over the newer tech. but I chose the bird in hand.

this is where paying more for Big Pharma pays off for US:

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But they make pretty good week killer.

Come on down south and you can have mine. My GP’s office has called twice to schedule me for a shot, despite my telling them I’m not going to take it. Along with all of my comorbidities, they must think I’m deaf, as well … or maybe just daft. :smile:

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But wait - they signed a deal with a trustworthy and honorable Chicom military owned private company 8 or 9 months ago. What could possibly have gone wrong?

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And opposite here. I’ve called my GP & nurse says, “keep calling”. No vaccine!

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Always interesting to see the NYT making excuses when it comes to their favored leaders’ failings. A few highlights below on vaccination rates -

But over the last few weeks, as vaccination has become a top priority, the pattern has changed. Progressive leaders in much of the world are now struggling to distribute coronavirus vaccines quickly and efficiently… many Democratic states — like California, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York and tiny Rhode Island — are below the national average.

Note the emphasis now that they aren’t liberal or Democratic leaders, but progressive ones. And they’re quick to remind one old centrist that he is too, whether he likes it or not.

The world has one new, and very high-profile, progressive government with a chance to show it can do better: the Biden administration.

So what’s the problem? Too much hand wringing over “equity”, not enough actual vaccinations.

The trade-offs between equity and efficiency are real: Rapid vaccination programs will first reach many relatively privileged people.

Although they do eventually admit “The most effective way to save lives is probably to vaccinate people as quickly as possible.” So how’s that going?

A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity… Some blue states have also created intricate rules about who qualifies for a vaccine and then made a big effort to keep anybody else from getting a shot. These complicated rules have slowed vaccination in both California and New York.

In other words, failing. And of course no NYT article on the virus would be incomplete without lying about some statistics to make Trump look bad.

The Trump administration fell far short of its own goal for vaccination speed, but by its final days it did get the country close to President Biden’s stated goal of 1 million shots per day.

Actually under the Trump admin, the US did exceed 1M/day several days in mid January, but the chart they used in the article was a 7 day rolling average that managed to make it look like they just fell short before the inauguration due to how the moving average lags the actual rate when the actual rate is rapidly rising.

They also only showed in the chart Biden’s “new” 1.5M/day, overlooking his bold, ambitious, 100M vaccines in 100 days pledge, which would have been literally worse than the run rate he inherited at the time his admin took over. Sure, I know given all the whining they did about transition and lack of planning to give themselves an excuse for failing, but I guess now that they decided to up the goal to 1.5M/day it must not have been that bad after all.

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Absolutely no credit to Trump. Go Biden, we’re all rooting for you!! :100:

Pretty sure there’s gonna be international travel restrictions for anyone un-vaccinated, (as countries open up).

That alone is gonna have me waiting day 1 to get my shots.

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This is a very real thing and a huge problem.

My sister works at a hospital in Seattle, on the research side. The state government has repeatedly forced them to pull back on programs meant to avoid wasting unused vaccine. An example: they were going to announce a friends and family program so that folks who were willing/able to go to a vaccine site a a moment’s notice could get a shot. The thought process here being that family members of employees are less likely to miss appointments and will be in the best position to get into the hospital quickly to use up the vaccine.

This program was vetoed by the state, citing equity. For all the credit Inslee got early on in the pandemic, the vaccine distribution has been nothing short of a cluster. Just look at this map and tell me there’s no correlation between a state’s concentration of social justice warriors and how effectively they’ve distributed the vaccine.

Once the J&J vaccine comes out in March and it’s a one-shot deal, they need to shift to a first-come-first-served model. It’s more important at this point to get the injections in as many arms as possible and stop the virus from mutating further as opposed to holding vaccine back so everyone gets a “fair share”.

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Didn’t know Idaho has a concentration of social warriors. Or Kansas, or Alabama.
At least in Oregon the main problem was the state’s lack of planning on how to get vaccines into arms. The equity part has been more talk and PR than anything real.

I finally know someone in CA that received the vaccine.

Got a call from my Grandson. He checked at the Native American Health Center outside Sacramento. At first they said he was to young. He explained he just got a job working at Caltrans as a Biologist in Transportation. That was good enough, he received the vaccination.

Problem is, his wife is a Pre School teacher & she doesn’t qualify for the vaccine yet. Even though she is out around the population & little kids. So far teachers in CA don’t qualify for vaccine unless they are older.

I’m still calling… :face_with_raised_eyebrow: I could drive to the NAHC, it’s to far & besides my DH couldn’t get vaccinated.

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I thought Texas would do better than this - firing and prosecuting a doctor for working hard to find people to give the last expiring doses of a vaccine to at the end of the day.

Not only did the judge throw the DA’s bogus “shoplifting the vaccine” case out, she’s going to try again with a grand jury. Unsurprisingly, the DA responsible for charging the doctor has pledged her support for “inclusion” and political correctness. You can see how that was received -

https://twitter.com/…465755634253828
https://twitter.com/…370117406040065

She’s ruining his life and intimidating other doctors into not vaccinating as many people as they can. This will lead to more covid cases and quite likely more deaths. She’s got blood on her hands, too bad it’s not her own.

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Naw, it’s still all Trump’s fault for not ordering enough.

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These tales of vaccine misappropriation and expiration give me a smile. So, too, do the stories of teams of doctors travelling upriver, deep into the Amazon rainforest, to inoculate the native peoples living there.

Meanwhile here I sit, well north of 75 with comorbidities to burn, in rural America with no vaccine even close. There is not a dull moment in this life. :grinning: