When will you allow yourself to be vaccinated?

Is this the new foolbook?

Well hopefully no one will care about covid in a couple years, and I am not so optimistic about FB.

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AZN a lot of was said about possible blood clot risks from their vaccine with most of the EU stopping, and then after a few days, resuming vaccinations. In case you were wondering what this all was about the basic idea was this -

There were some deaths and serious health issues from blood clots in recently vaccinated people. But normal blood clots (deep vein thrombosis and or pulmonary embolisms) aren’t super rare and when the data was reviewed, the rate of these was not out of the ordinary given how many people got vaccinated recently. So nothing on that front.

However, a rare brain related type of blood clot was found to be several times more common than expected -

https://www.wsj.com/articles/astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine-is-cleared-by-europe-after-blood-clot-concerns-11616083845

InĀ­stiĀ­tute PresĀ­iĀ­dent Klaus CiĀ­chutek deĀ­fended the recĀ­omĀ­men-daĀ­tion, sayĀ­ing his exĀ­perts idenĀ­tiĀ­fied seven cases in GerĀ­many of cereĀ­bral vein thromĀ­boĀ­sis, a seĀ­vere brain conĀ­diĀ­tion, and three of the peoĀ­ple died. GerĀ­many’s healthĀ­care minĀ­istry said that, based on the numĀ­ber of vacĀ­ciĀ­na-tions given, it would have exĀ­pected as many as 1.4 cases of cereĀ­bral vein thromĀ­boĀ­sis, and the seven cases merĀ­ited a pause.

No word on the similar numbers for the other vaccines, whether all the covid around means that these blood clots are more common than the pre-covid baseline they’re using, etc, but either way it’s super rare but if you get meningitis type symptoms after your vaccine, definitely get medical attention.

Note the EU medical board’s endorsement doesn’t disclaim these rare risks, just saying ā€œit’s worth the risk since covid is badā€ basically.

The EMA’s safety committee found the vaccine to be ā€œsafe and effective in preventing Covid-19, and its benefits outweigh its risk,ā€ said committee chair Sabine Straus. Dr. Straus said that since blood clots are associated with Covid-19, by inoculating people against the disease, the vaccine ā€œlikely reduces the risk of thrombotic incidents overall.ā€

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Yesterday, Saturday, folks seemed to be out & about in my country town. Traffic abounded!!

Now maybe the reason was that people got that stimulus check & on the run to spend it. Possibly more folks have had the Covid-19 vaccination, & feel safer. I was out in the early evening buying some Chipotle Mexican take out.

What ever, Malls crowded & town is looking closer to ā€œthe old normalā€. :relaxed:

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basically vax can cause clots but so can Covid (worse)

Just got me shot today (J&J). Now just got to wait about 2 weeks and I should be good to go. :crazy_face:

Getting the vaccine you want was more of a hassle than I thought it would be once I became eligible. Many places won’t tell you which shot you’ll get ahead of time so you don’t get to pick. I ended up claiming that I was allergic to polyethylene glycol to be sure to be given the J&J one.

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smart move. From a public health logistics perspective you don’t want to give a choice. I’m surprised they didn’t ask you how you know about being allergic to polyethylene glycol

Had I known in Dec that JNJ would be avail by now I would have waited too.

Tons of common OTC medication like acetominophen, ibuprofen or zyrtec contains PEG as excipient. Few OTC anti-constipation medication like Miralax even use PEG as active laxative.

They won’t bother asking where you found out about it because there are so many products containing it and it’s a waste of their time to investigate.

Got my first shot, pfizer, yesterday at a state run mass vaccination site about 35 minutes from my house at a college basketball arena.

I was feeling a little guilty because of how soon my opportunity came up after registering and hearing about people lying about their health conditions jumping old people in line - both my mom step dad haven’t received theirs. I’m 37, they are 64. I made sure to tell the truth when registering so that wouldn’t happen. But when I got there, there were no senior citizens that I saw. Very few people with any gray hair, and I was one of the baldest guys there. So I was clearly above the average age of the recipients. It turns out my mom and step dad don’t have theirs because they didn’t register yet. They thought they couldn’t because they aren’t 65 and in their state, they hadn’t received any guidance. So I no longer feel like I took someone else’s place in line that needs it more.

Edit: I called my mom last night, found the site for her local health department, sent it to her and now she is registered.

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Naaaa, you’re good. No worries at all for you.

I’m a whale of a lot older than that and nobody in my state gives a good RF about my being vaccinated. I’m much too far off the beaten path. I figure, way things are unfolding, it’ll be at least a couple more months before I have any realistic chance to obtain the vaccine. And I’m not at all certain that even then I’ll have a decent shot. Maybe before year’s end. I hope so.

Ya gotta remember the current government is focused on cities and other population centers. Maybe after all those folks are vaccinated they will remember not everyone lives in a city. But we don’t vote for them, so maybe not.

I’m not trying to give you a hard time because I agree with you mostly. But just out of curiosity, how far are you willing to travel to get the vaccine and how far are you from the closest city?

Good for you. Everyone needs a little extra help & encouragement now & then.

Yesterday I helped a friend go online & set up his Medicare application. He is 64 with birthday 7/28 to turn 65. The form looked pretty complicated for him. (so I went online & filled it out)

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Easier to explain it as follows:

There was a theoretical opportunity for me which involved a 60+ mile round trip and indoor administration of the vaccine. I had no interest.

I would travel further for an outdoor, drive through, opportunity than I would if they insist I go indoors. In fact, I will not go indoors to obtain the vaccine if it means I have to stand there, waiting, among a bunch of unvaccinated people.

Hell, all they have to do is put up a tent in a parking lot some place and start giving shots. So far, that has not happened where I live.

Biden said we will all be vaccinated by May. I have my doubts about it happening but we will see.
Really only age 65+ at this moment are qualifying for Covid 19 shots.
Thousands still waiting!

Yes, the jj dpa production boost has helped.

More specifically, it’s that all adults (not everyone) should be eligible by May 1.

That’s not the same thing as everyone vaccinated. And it’s almost a month after the first shot to be vaccinated so…

TX is opening up next Monday to all adults. But the vaccination rate for the other groups is still pretty terrible. So it’s not really a ā€œgood signā€ to remove the restriction early. It’s a sign that not enough of the targeted groups are actually getting vaccinated quickly enough.

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We’re making good progress in New Orleans. Something like 27% of the population vaccinated already. Having a good supply of the single dose vaccine helps, plus a nontrivial number of people here have health so poor that they fit the state guideline for higher-risk.

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Agreed. But even though I have been left out I still favor vaccination for others regardless their age or comorbidities. I think it is important everyone who wants the vaccine has opportunity to receive a shot.

For me patience will eventually win the prize . . . . I hope. :wink:

To be fair then, it’s not that they don’t care about you being vaccinated. It’s that they don’t care about you being completely comfortable with the process.

Did you miss my post? People in their 20s are qualifying for the reason that @Bend3r just mentioned:

I think this is only partly a failure of the gov’t - specifically communication. The majority of the failure is the choice of a lot of people not to be vaccinated. And it’s not just backwoods MAGA hat wearers. My boss and I are probably the most conservative people at work. We’ve both received the first shot. My staff accountant is not conservative. She is a self-admitted COVID scaredy-cat (her words). She’s older than me. I told her when I got an appointment because I thought she’d be happy. I asked if she had scheduled yet and planned to tell her to register on the site I used if she hadn’t yet. She told me she got a call last week and decided against it. Turns out she’s more afraid of the vaccine than COVID. And I reiterate - she is NOT conservative and is NOT refusing the vaccine on ā€œfreedomā€ grounds.

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Whatever. I’m not up for 120+ miles of driving to receive two shots. I’m waiting until they bring the vaccine closer to where I am. Just hope it happens before Christmas.

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If you don’t live near a place where a mass in-vehicle vaccination site makes sense, you should be checking your local pharmacy to see when they will be getting it. Yeah, it’s indoors, but it isn’t a basketball auditorium filled with unvaccinated people, so it’s probably the best you’ll be able to get without a long trip.

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