Statewide news tells about local pharmacy’s providing vaccination. That’s all talk. Doesn’t happen anyplace near where I live.
That comment is unlike most of your posting here. Very crude!
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?? Facts are crude?
But I disagree, it is not really wholly the gullible people who have been conned who are responsible. Site, they have some share in the responsibility.
But the racist disinformation aholes like Tucker and the criminals like DJT and Ted Cruz are responsible for spreading the disinformation to them.
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Good one. Closest pharmacy is a small, stand alone, “mom and pop” operation over ten miles distant. Even some of the big national chain pharmacies are not offering shots yet. But, sure, I would consider a quick in and out at a pharmacy in order to get a shot. There is one about twenty miles away, a national chain. Don’t think they have the vaccine yet, though.
It remains early. Hope more vaccine becomes available closer by as we move further into the spring season.
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It was tongue in cheek. It wasn’t meant as a depiction of anyone here. It was a reference to what the left and the media is portraying as the anti-vax crowd, which is inaccurate because the anti-vax crowd is very much purple. Plus, I was talking to @Bend3r in his own language - we all know where he stands. For instance:
They have literally been vaccinated.
If I understand correctly, the governor here (La) basically opened it up to nearly all this week. The list of occupations seems to cover nearly anyone. Might still be age-restricted for some of the vaccines. I have not looked at this closely so may be wrong on some of the finer details.
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If that’s your best option, and based on what you are describing as your situation I think it may be, get in the habit of checking their website everyday. I wish I could say there was a solution other than doing that legwork yourself, but there really isn’t. Who knows, you might be pleasantly surprised sooner than you expect. That’s what’s happening to us young city and suburb folk right now.
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It is not. Sure, not 100%. But ~80% of them are from the ~40% of the population that are MAGA. Most of the non MAGA/QOP with hesitancy are Black Americans who are rightly cautious based on very recent historical events, where the US government infected Black Americans with biological agents for medical experimentation…
The numbers are improving in more recent surveys, but the partisan anti-science divide is only growing larger.
Yes. While continuing to tell people the virus is a hoax, NBD, Fauci and other doctors know nothing, and people shouldn’t get vaccinated unless they really want to.
The hypocracy you note is not a positive attribute. The MyPillow insurrectionist still is directly spewing Fud about the vaccines. Nevermind Tucker, etc, on FOX – which as absurd as they are is unlikely as bad as Newsmax and OAN.
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The distribution is messed up. Friends of ours in NV got vaccinated a month ago, same age as us (upper 40s). They got it because doses were going to waste in their area. Our state opened it up to everybody 40+ a week ago. Opening it to everyone above 16 on 3/29. Meanwhile some states are still only allowing people over 65 or 60. It doesn’t make much sense to me how there could be such disparities.
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This. If you really want it right now, you have to be willing to do the work, and can’t be too picky about the conditions or location under which you get it. You can always wait until later though. There are also sometime opportunities in adjoining states. That’s how I got it a month ago.
There are Facebook groups in many areas with good advice and recent data points of who’s gotten it where. Very helpful if you’re trying for an online appointment at CVS/Walgreens/Walmart or some local hospital group, so you can know exactly when they tend to release new batches of dates. I’d try to find one for your area.
If you’re waiting for a provider to reach out to you, you may be waiting quite a while. it’s an issue of the distribution channels being so fragmented. I agree it’s frustrating.
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So true. CA is lagging behind & whose fault is it? Governor? President?
As I stated earlier age 65+ (unless special groups) still is the law for Covid 19 vaccination. Doesn’t make sense, we are all Americans & should have the same care. I wish!!
As is Washington. We are still at 65+ and it’s ridiculous. Appointments are wide open here - you can find appointments at nearly any day, any time as long as you’re willing to drive up to 50 miles. Meanwhile some less-than-scrupulous folks are stretching the truth, claiming they are eligible and getting shots (I know a few of these people), while others such as my wife and I are waiting our turn.
I expect the floodgates will open on May 1, and an appointment will be nearly impossible to come by because they’ve gated 70% of the adult population from getting a vaccine before then. They could be opening up to age 60+ (or 55+) to help use up the current stockpile but instead, those folks will get vaccinated at the same time as myself (in the 35-40 range).
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Why are blacks right to be cautious but not whites? Why can’t whites be cautious because blacks were infected by the government? If one group is right to be fearful, why aren’t all of us right to be fearful?
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… Which I did not say.
Statistics for a group doesn’t mean it applies to every single member of the group. It’s still valuable to look at tendencies and imbalances.
The facts are that Blacks (as a group) have been poorer and less educated in the USA, with multiple root causes. (The situation has been improving. But that’s not so useful when talking about older blacks being more suspicious).
The poorer groups are who the medical experimentation was most often conducted on, seemingly for obvious reasons…
Logically it seems straightforward other than just looking at the well known examples. Blacks were poorer. Therefore they were affected more. And the disparity was very large and noticeable.
I’m not a historian though. There’s also the racism, but even without that there’s the economic differences.
The Tuskegee syphillis experiment is one of the most widely known abuses and targeted solely blacks as they were disposable… (The title of the experiment was “Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male”) it ran from 1932 all the way to 1972.
You complained about people on the right spreading misinformation leading to republican whites ignorantly not wanting the vaccine. That was after acknowledging that blacks also don’t want the vaccine, but excusing their ignorance because of experiments that happened generations ago. Either the experiments are cause for concern today for everyone or they’re not (Spoiler alert: they’re not).
1 out of every 5 Democrat says that the so-called “anti-science divide” is bipartisan.
And you are talking about the same science that has spent a year insisting on “6 feet!” only to now suddenly say “unless maybe 3 feet would be ok too”. And “There’s no need for the general public to wear masks”, until one da…oh, I give up. We all know that using “the science” is just spin to try to shame people into agreeing with you, no one will buy your narrative if the sales pitch is “lots of people are guessing that this might eventually be proven somewhat accurate.”
I guess explanation can be read as an excuse.
I was really just pointing out that even with the huge disparity (45% QOP party vs 21% Democrat) that the “Democrat” leaning identifiers who aren’t black is an even larger disparity.
IMO, 1972 is NOT what I’d characterize as “generations ago.” But maybe others would…
I only proffered one of the root causes for their concern.
I did not say I believed there was an ongoing cause for concern. I did not say they were right or wrong in having the concerns.
That there was uncertainty itself in any group is not the problem. We’ve had over a year to plan for the vaccine rollout. That’s the federal, state, and local governments’ (but primarily federal) function to address concerns and get people on board through public relations efforts.
Citation needed for there ever being a claim that there was some magical forcefield at exactly 6 feet.
It’s the same as before, there’s just a different community situation (such as vaccine distribution) and additional knowledge that could only be accumulated through observation. 6 feet is still much better than no feet for reducing transmission of all respiratory viruses. 6 feet is still better than 3 feet. With vaccinations and other mitigation measures, and with further information which could only come from observation (that children are somewhat less succeptible, however not invulnerable), they revise the guidelines. How is everything supposedly some conspiracy that “science knows nothing! So we shouldn’t listen to any experts, they might just change their minds again! The Pillow Guy knows more than the CDC”
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AHHHHHH! THE PILLOW GUY!!! Y’ALL ARE SUCH MORONS!!! CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!! MAGA!!! IDIOTS!!! HOAX!!! DRINK BLEACH!!!
Unfortunately, the only thing that has been made clear over the last 12 months is the ridiculous prevailance of bullying as a tool to force a faux consensus.
As I said, I give up. Just like the politics thread, go ahead and belittle people all you want, I wont be reading it any more.
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If he only added the phrase “can’t rule that out”, I’d swear he was a local weatherman.
Where did they ever say 6 feet was a magical distance though? Yes, it’s standard for partially known respiratory viruses. Yes, 3 feet is somewhat effective, but less than 6 feet. What has changed with that? That was my question. It was always somewhat arbitrary, but they had to set policy at some level… that was the agreed recommendation.
It seems absurd to throw one’s hands up in the air with “They said 6 feet for months. Now it’s 3 feet for no reason whatsoever!” Which is a pretty accurate paraphrase of what you complained about…
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