And the point of the article is that the Pfizer vaccine also has a high rate of side effects especially for the second vaccine.
Boy, I need to thank xerty one last time. I am so pleased to have snuck in under the wire and gotten the J&J vaccine when I could. I donāt like being sick or having side effects. I do not like having to get two shots. But Biden now has āhad itā with J&J. Who knows how things will unfold for J&J fans like me going forward:
Biden officials lose faith in Johnson & Johnson after repeated vaccine stumbles
Timing is everything. I just barely got in under the wire. When youāre on Bidenās sh** list these days, well, that is real trouble.
Can anyone say āorphan vaccineā?
From the article in politico
If ongoing tests of remaining vaccine batches made by J&Jās contractor Emergent BioSolutions reveal further contamination, it could take the vaccine maker up to four months to replace those doses through manufacturing at alternate facilities, according to two people with direct knowledge of the situation.
In the meantime, FDA is continuing to test all existing batches of J&J vaccine produced by Emergent to determine if they are safe for use. But it will take J&J at least two more weeks to address safety and hygiene concerns raised by FDA after its recent inspection of Emergentās Bayview plant in Baltimore. The agency said Monday that the Bayview facility is not large or sanitary enough for vaccine production and that the company has not fixed the problems that led to the ruined doses.
Inside J&J boardroom: āGuys, if we can filter the rat droppings out of our Baltimore vaccine itāll go a really long way toward enhancing our bottom line!ā
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CDC panel recommends U.S. resume use of J&J Covid vaccine, saying benefits outweigh risks
Meanwhile:
Given J&Jās standards are so low here in the USA, who is checking out and overseeing their European facility which, so far, has produced all the COVID-19 vaccine they have shipped. Anybody taken a look? It could be equally as raunchy as Baltimore!
Rare blood clots with low platelets are occurring at a rate of 7 per 1 million vaccinations in women ages 18 to 49 for the J&J shot and 0.9 per 1 million in women age 50 and older, according to a slide presented at the CDC panel meeting. CDC has confirmed 15 cases total of rare blood clot conditions, which includes 12 women who developed blood clots in the brain. Three women have died and 7 remained hospitalized, according to the slides.
There are no confirmed cases in men, though officials have said they are reviewing potential additional cases.
Being of the XY persuasion, Iāll get the J&J vaccine if I get a chance although I doubt that I will.
Well, 48 hours post-second Pfizer vaccine, and Iām fine. I had some minor chills and warm cheeks at about the 24 hour mark, and that was sorted out once I took some ibuprofen before bed. A very minor cost to pay to do my part to return to normal.
As for the J&J vaccine⦠what happened to Merck manufacturing the vaccine? I would figure thatād be a faster path to getting it out versus rectifying the Baltimore situation.
from the politico article
With Emergentās woes setting the company up for months of repairs, the administration has sought to accelerate J&J vaccine production at a separate facility run by Merck, which agreed in March to help churn out doses. But the pharmaceutical giantās vaccine facility will not be ready until September, according to a senior administration official.
WALK-IN VACCINE CLINIC (small rural Sacramento County CA) will host vaccination from 9am-1pm Saturday April 24.
Appointments are first-come, first-served. You must be 18 years old older.
Walk-ins will be accepted.
The Moderna vaccine will be administered at this event.
In the Santa Clara County (San Francisco Bay Area), vaccine appointments are now widely available. It was extremely difficult to find one just a few weeks ago when I got my first shot.
Big changes happening!
Who knows we may have āherd immunityā before long.
I actually received 2 calls today from the county asking if anyone wished an appointment for the vaccination.
Kind of difficult to understand how quickly the vaccine availability is here and ready to get. Great!
Medical experts have said there is growing evidencethat forgoing a second dose of the two-shot coronavirus immunizations currently on the US market, from Pfizer and Moderna, can leave people more vulnerable to the diseaseās highly transmissible variants. In addition, it is unclear how long the protection from a single shot might last.
wait a minute, didnāt they figure out the need for two doses before they started vaccinating people? it is hard to blame people for not getting the second one if they do not present convincing evidence that it is needed.
Sure. The original research probably did not include the new highly transmittable variants, and now the article states that thereās growing evidence that skipping the second shot makes you more vulnerable to those variants, not just to the original virus or earlier variants. Thereās no contradiction in what it says. And it only makes sense that weaker protection is ⦠weaker.
I hadnāt seen that discussed. can you point me to what you were reading?
I was just explaining what the article says. I guess I should have put that in quotes.
I have heard this as well. Itās one of several reasons I went for the J&J vaccine. The J&J trials took place later than the ones for the mRNA vaccines. As a result those J&J trials actually did encounter some of the variants which, by now, are everywhere.
Yeah, but the efficacy of a single-shot J&J is pretty much the same as the efficacy of a single-shot of the mRNA, is it not? One shot of any vaccine gives what, 67%? 2 shots of mRNA gives 95% (against original strains at least). Chances are that two mRNA shots are better against any variant than just one shot of mRNA or J&J.
Heck, two J&J shots might be as good as two mRNA shots. Looks like J&J was actually testing it, but I canāt find the results.
Yes, this is similar to Chinese Sinovax approach of doing 3 shots (! )
I would still do JNJ for my teenage son once approved (and myself for boosters if they do 2 for PFE again) IF they solve their supply chain issues. The Baltimore supplier thing is unbelievable
I dunno. But hereās the thing:
J&J is advertised to be 100% effective against death and serious illness/hospitalization. That works for me. The rest Iām gonna cover with double masking and careful attention to distancing. The former includes one N95 mask as these have finally become available.
I am surprised by the number of Americans who have opted out of COVID-19 vaccinations period. You hear percentages of 40% and even higher. Avoiding vaccination makes no sense to me. However:
Iām passing for now on the ānew fangledā mRNA vaccines. Let other more courageous folks go first on those. I will wait and see how they make out. Luckily for me there was the middle course of J&J, a traditional vaccine. Iām three weeks in now with no side effects at all. Still must wait one week for full development of antibodies. Week from today Iām āoutta here!ā.
I did not post this personal experience earlier. Am not sure why. Probably should have as a heads up for others. This applies no matter which vaccine you choose.
By far my greatest angst, when I went in to get my shot, was not the shot itself or the choice of vaccine. Those were the easy parts. Do not allow this to happen to you:
Where I live it was necessary to go indoors to get my shot. If you have drive-up vaccination available you can stop reading now. This does not apply to you. But for others in my situation . . .
I received my shot at a Rite Aid drugstore. I had an appointment and I arrived timely. Check-in went smoothly. I presented all the cards they had requested when I signed up online. No problems.
Following check-in I expected to get my shot and get out. WRONG!! I was blindsided by need to wait over one half hour, in a closed area with perhaps between fifteen and twenty other unvaccinated folks, all waiting for our shots. Since beginning of pandemic I had not come even close to that level of potential COVID-19 exposure. I tried to stand apart from the others, but I was very uncomfortable. Luckily enough time has now passed to where I can say it was OK.
When you go for your shot, if it must be indoors, inquire after check-in how far they are running behind. Then you can wait outdoors. I just assumed they would honor my appointment within a few minutes. That was stupid on my part; it is not an error I will make again. The waiting under those conditions was far, far worse than the shot or anything since.