When will you allow yourself to be vaccinated?

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Study: J&J vaccine effective against Delta variant

A small study just released by Johnson & Johnson is constructive and hopeful regarding effectiveness of their vaccine against the Delta variant of COVID-19. Here is more detail:

J&J vaccine protects against Delta variant

The coverage of the variants is going to be better than what people anticipated

There was a lot of misinformation that was spreading, so we decided that we needed to get this into the public domain right away

This part is also noteworthy:

“Current data for the eight months studied so far show that the single-shot Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine generates a strong neutralizing antibody response that does not wane; rather, we observe an improvement over time”

Cool

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Healthy 13 year old dies a couple days after the PFE shot.

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what about 2 AZN then PFE? When. My MD says 6 mo.s for my parents but not sure if I want to wait that long.

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The CDC says the vaccines are perfectly safe. They’ve been saying it for months thru statements, press releases, paid commercials, paid endorsements, etc. Thus, why not get a PFE this mont, AZN next month, and J&J in September. Rinse and repeat (in a different order if you want). You’ll be safe - the CDC says so. :mask:

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People may actually do that if they keep offering money/prizes.

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all prizes around here in AZ expired last week

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AZN isn’t as effective against delta variant. Combo is
 Read @xerty post I quoted above mine

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Pfizer developing a booster shot


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And trying to drum up support for it too, with fact free speculation like this -

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PFE makes Viagra, right?

You’d think they would want to try to double dip


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Or, at least, spam you to death. :smile:

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Is anyone aware of studies on 
 resistance to other diseases / allergies. Why do I ask, you say?

I am not allergic/susceptible to Poison Ivy/Oak. I also have been in “extremely” close proximity to Covid-19 positive individuals. I have not been infected/affected despite the fact that I am in an extremely higher percentile of “at risk” comorbidities. (age/weight/looks/lung-function/geniusness).

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Must be that lucky rabbit’s foot you have been carrying all these years. Hope it continues to work for you. Cause if not . . . . . . . . . . .

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It

It wasn’t very lucky for the rabbit. :wink:

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JNJ getting a warning for rare autoimmune nerve damage.

https://archive.is/k0h8Z

The Food and Drug Administration is preparing to announce a new warning for the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine saying the shot has been linked to a serious but rare side effect — Guillain-BarrĂ© syndrome, in which the immune system attacks the nerves, according to four individuals familiar with the situation.

About 100 preliminary reports of Guillain-Barré have been detected after 12.8 million doses of Johnson & Johnson vaccine were administered, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a statement. These cases have largely been reported about two weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many aged 50 years and older. Available data do not show a pattern suggesting a similar increased risk with the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, after more than 321 million doses of those vaccines have been administered in the United States.

Guillain-Barré syndrome usually occurs at a rate of about 60 to 120 cases each week, according to CDC data. 
 Each year in the United States, an estimated 3,000 to 6,000 people develop the illness.

Most people fully recover, but some have permanent nerve damage, according to the CDC. People older than 50 are at greatest risk.

Officials are expected to emphasize that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is safe and that its benefits clearly outweigh the potential risks, according to the people familiar with the situation.

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Thank Heaven it’s not the CDC. I’d have to edit 60-odd posts about how safe it is. :slight_smile:

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Wasn’t that what some comedian proposed a few months ago to drum up vaccination rates? LOL

I still don’t understand why they want to bother with all the extra efforts to get more people vaccinated. At this point, unless you’ve lived under a particularly impervious rock, the information is out, people are aware of what the deal is and have made their decision. Vaccines are available for free everywhere and will continue to be for a while. Seems like a waste of time and money to me to do more than what’s already been done.

Just let things play out. It’ll self-correct as needed. If it turns out that getting vaccinated was a mistake and vaccinated people die earlier than they would have, well tough. It’s done already. If it turns out, the unvaccinated die prematurely, well tough. Either way, you make your bed, now lie in it.

Yes keeping the infections going for a while may help create new variants but short of mandating vaccination for all - never gonna happen in the US -, not much any PR campaign will accomplish.

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Once approved, colleges could easily add this vaccine to their required vaccination list. Not vaccinated = no college. Should help with the vaccine uptake come fall. High schools could do the same.

*leaving aside exemptions, but these aren’t ~half the school population now

Examples:
https://healthcompliance.shcc.ufl.edu/immunization-requirement/requirements-and-recommendations/
https://health.gatech.edu/immunization/requirements
https://shc.sa.ua.edu/forms/immunization-form/

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I like your idea, no vaccinations= no college.

This is an aside.

Yesterday I got a call from one of my good friends. Actually we play bridge monthly (used to before COVID) and she wanted to know if I wanted to play again. She was calling everyone, but one stipulation, those wishing to play must to have had their COVID vaccination.

Might be happening more than expected around town.

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Or the common sense of a lot of students. :smile: